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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Actually, your point is that you are an idiot.
What you fail to see, and apparantly the majority of RP supporters fail to see, is that 2/3's of the public want a change. They just aren't ready to toss out the baby with the bathwater.
We all want change. Just responsible change. RP does not offer that. He only offers pie-in-the-sky change. He's a populist of the worst sort. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Actually, your point is that you are an idiot.
What you fail to see, and apparantly the majority of RP supporters fail to see, is that 2/3's of the public want a change. They just aren't ready to toss out the baby with the bathwater.
We all want change. Just responsible change. RP does not offer that. He only offers pie-in-the-sky change. He's a populist of the worst sort. |
You are simply drinking the KoolAid. You've been beaten down long and hard enough that you no longer believe you have any power. This is what happens to the oppressed; they begin to identify with their oppressors.
You are also avoiding specific questions. Have we got another Gopher among us? He claimed to be a Dem but acted like a neo-con. Eventually admitted it. Something similar going on here? "There are serious problems, but LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THAT WOULD BE UNWISE." |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Yes. Right. The democrats are meaningfully different than the Republicans.
Were they not elected to end the war? Have they? How many Dems voted to give Bush the right to attack? Hillary? Do you think the people really in charge would be at all uncomfortable with any of the Dems? It is a scam at this point. Your country has been bought and paid for by large corporations. They write your policy, they write your laws. You go to war for them. The government throws 2/5 black men in jail so that beer/tobacco and Pharm firms can keep their monopoly on getting high. Which Dem will end that?
I'm a foreigner looking at your country. I used to deeply admire America. My mother is American. My fiance and at least 80% of my friends are American. But the idea of America is dead. It is a war mongering, torturing banana republic now. I don't agree with Ron Paul on many things, and on most of those things he wouldn't have the authority to make the changes anyhow. But he would be commander in chief, and he would be able to end these aggressive, illegal, criminal, inhuman wars. So he gets my meaningless Canadian support.
edited for politeness. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| You are simply drinking the KoolAid. You've been beaten down long and hard enough that you no longer believe you have any power. |
Thank you for stealing my line about the green Koolade without attribution.
As usual, your emotions get in the way of your reading comprehension. That does not surprise me, but it does dismay me.
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| Were they not elected to end the war? Have they? |
Careful. You are displaying your ignorance of how the system works again.
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| But the idea of America is dead. |
No, it is not. It has been betrayed by the present administration, I'll grant you that. But that doesn't mean it is dead. It is just waiting for the next election. That is one of the strokes of genius of the Founding Fathers. They instituted regular elections for situations just like this. Can it prevent this kind of crisis happening? No. Can it change the course once it's begun. Yes.
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But he would be commander in chief, and he would be able to end these aggressive, illegal, criminal, inhuman wars. So he gets my meaningless Canadian support.
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Thank you SO much for your one issue support. Take it from those of us who actually have to live in the country (and the consequences of its decisions, foreign and domestic) if I fail to bow and scrape. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| You are simply drinking the KoolAid. You've been beaten down long and hard enough that you no longer believe you have any power. |
Thank you for stealing my line about the green Koolade without attribution. |
Petty, ignorant, and megalomaniacal all in one sentence? Impressive. But, sorry, whatever your green koolade BS was, I've not run across it. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| keane wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Actually, your point is that you are an idiot.
What you fail to see, and apparantly the majority of RP supporters fail to see, is that 2/3's of the public want a change. They just aren't ready to toss out the baby with the bathwater.
We all want change. Just responsible change. RP does not offer that. He only offers pie-in-the-sky change. He's a populist of the worst sort. |
You are simply drinking the KoolAid. You've been beaten down long and hard enough that you no longer believe you have any power. This is what happens to the oppressed; they begin to identify with their oppressors.
You are also avoiding specific questions. Have we got another Gopher among us? He claimed to be a Dem but acted like a neo-con. Eventually admitted it. Something similar going on here? "There are serious problems, but LET'S NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THAT WOULD BE UNWISE." |
Are you channeling Extremely Foolish Lies again? You know the doctor warned you about that... |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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I think that your mind is simply not sufficiently flexible to accept change. You're a conservative.
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I have said for some time that I am a Constitutional conservative. I am quite proud of that. I am a broad constructionist in many areas, but a Constitutional conservative overall. I'll leave it to you to flex your mind over that if you care to--or are even up to the task. I've said for several years on this forum that Bush and Co. are radicals who are distorting the essence of the Constitution.
What's your point? |
My point is that you are a True Believer. Totally unable to understand a position that is fundamentally different than the one you currently believe. Virtually every post you make contains a massive mistake or misunderstanding that you have about Ron Paul. You are unable to grasp the very basics of his platform. |
You, thepeel, are at the very least also a True Believer of some things. Are you thereby wrong?
Again, what's the relevance of such an assertion. You need to show why Ya-ta might be wrong. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I think I have. Time and time and time again. He says something dumb about Paul and I correct him. Like the assertion that Paul is a racist. Stupid statement that I corrected. Or the issue of federal loans inflating schooling costs. Stupid statement, I corrected. |
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Funkdafied
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Ron Paul is not radical at all. He is deeply, profoundly, classically american, and deeply, profoundly, classically conservative. I think he would be an outstanding choice for next president. It would do america the world of good, and the world also. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| Remember Paul voted against govt support for alternative energy programs |
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