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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| self-physical examination report for taking drugs and infectious diseases. |
Heh, I just saw this upon rereading it.
"Hmm, do I have cocaine in my system?"
*achoo!*
"Nope, my nose didn't fall off. Hey, Immigration, I'm clean!" |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
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| ajuma wrote: |
| Can you get one WITHOUT having a Korean spouse? |
Hiddink couldn't, what chance have you? |
Wasn't he given honory citizenship anyway? |
Yes. HONORARY. Means squat legally. |
That was a terrible spelling mistake to make and I wasn't even drinking. I always thought that honorary citizenship conferred the same rights on someone as normal citizenship but after reading up on the matter it appears that you are right. |
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indytrucks

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: The Shelf
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Just got off the phone with Daejon immi, yet again. They now tell me that as of Dec. 15th, people wanting to renew will need a medical check and a criminal check. Nothing about an interview. As for what manner of criminal check, the girl didn't speak English well enough to tell me. Same for the medical, and whether or not they want it from here, or from your home country. |
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Hank the Iconoclast

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Aye, after reading that link with the new VISA requirements I can say it is much less likely I will be here next year. Who the hell wants to put up with all of that to renew their E2 VISA? Seriously. |
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Netz

Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know if this has been posted on Dave's yet, but anyway it is over on Koreabridge. You'll have to click the link because I'm not going to lift the text and paste it.
It's titled:
E2 notice from Immigration - a good translation
http://www.koreabridge.com/jobforums/viewtopic.php?t=2132 |
THANK YOU for posting this, I just did the happy dance for 10 minutes.
Wether or not it all comes to pass, remains to be seen, but if they even do half of what they are suggesting, it will defintely improve the situation for the vets here, who really take thier job seriously.
I aslo get the feeling that anyone who is put off by all this, and planning not to return, are in fact the very people the Korean government hope to erdicate.
I never thought I'd see the day I would actually be praising the Korean goernment.
Miracles never cease. |
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Hank the Iconoclast

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know if this has been posted on Dave's yet, but anyway it is over on Koreabridge. You'll have to click the link because I'm not going to lift the text and paste it.
It's titled:
E2 notice from Immigration - a good translation
http://www.koreabridge.com/jobforums/viewtopic.php?t=2132 |
THANK YOU for posting this, I just did the happy dance for 10 minutes.
Wether or not it all comes to pass, remains to be seen, but if they even do half of what they are suggesting, it will defintely improve the situation for the vets here, who really take thier job seriously. I mean going back to the US is not easy at all to go through all of these hoops. Seriously, good teachers will leave and the F-2 VISA people will remain. That is all that will result.
I aslo get the feeling that anyone who is put off by all this, and planning not to return, are in fact the very people the Korean government hope to erdicate.
I never thought I'd see the day I would actually be praising the Korean goernment.
Miracles never cease. |
So they are trying to eradicate me? Anybody who is potentially new and wanting to teach in Korea? Very good. That makes all the veterans here happy but a lot of new teachers (who may very well be damn good teachers) will go elsewhere. Woo-hoo. |
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hogwonguy1979

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Netz wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
Don't know if this has been posted on Dave's yet, but anyway it is over on Koreabridge. You'll have to click the link because I'm not going to lift the text and paste it.
It's titled:
E2 notice from Immigration - a good translation
http://www.koreabridge.com/jobforums/viewtopic.php?t=2132 |
THANK YOU for posting this, I just did the happy dance for 10 minutes.
Wether or not it all comes to pass, remains to be seen, but if they even do half of what they are suggesting, it will defintely improve the situation for the vets here, who really take thier job seriously.
I aslo get the feeling that anyone who is put off by all this, and planning not to return, are in fact the very people the Korean government hope to erdicate.
I never thought I'd see the day I would actually be praising the Korean goernment.
Miracles never cease. |
Sit on it netz!!!
what about us long timers (and I know many) who are not married to Koreans, who have done a good job for years ( yes, even decades), caused no trouble and to be treated like this?
Its utter crap. |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Wether or not it all comes to pass, remains to be seen, but if they even do half of what they are suggesting, it will defintely improve the situation for the vets here, who really take thier job seriously.
I aslo get the feeling that anyone who is put off by all this, and planning not to return, are in fact the very people the Korean government hope to erdicate. |
First: Never be proud of your professionalism as an English teacher when your post is filled with enough mistakes that even a non-professional like me gets a headache reading it.
Second: The "Fly home" rule will put an unnecessary financial and time burden upon everyone not married to a Korean safety net. Serious teacher or not. There's a balance to be made between the effort to get here and the benefits of doing so. And as things currently stand in EFL, the benefits are not worth the effort.
If the salaries go up, then yes, it'll be worth it. But right now, two point whatever million won coupled with all of the annoyances that come with living and working here make returning a pretty unattractive choice. |
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jjk
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Location: Back in Australia for the time being
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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The school we are lloking at returning to Korea with in Daejeon (not a hagwon) has told me I need to submit the police check, but if it is the original, it doesn't need to have an apostille attached. They also said that they will pay for it when we get to Korea, with a receipt. The cost for a Federal Police Check here in Australia is $32.50, and takes approx. 10-15 days, according to the Federal Police site.
As for the medical, we have been given a self medical evaluation form to fill in, and the school will take us to a hospital in Korea, and pay for the checks when we are there. It seems the medical will be similar to that in Taiwan and China, though more targeted in Korea, as it is only for E2's. There anyone who applies for a visa of more than 180 days needs to provide the health check.
It seems easy enough, but there was no mention of an interview from the school. One would think that the fact we lived in Korea for 7 years without criminal issues would suffice for the Korean government, but there you go.
As said by others, it isn't the fact we have to provide the documents, it is the way it has been done. Also, it could be expensive- I would imagine that health checks are expensive in the US for newbies who have jobs there without insurance before coming over! |
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Hank the Iconoclast

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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As said by others, it isn't the fact we have to provide the documents, it is the way it has been done. Also, it could be expensive- I would imagine that health checks are expensive in the US for newbies who have jobs there without insurance before coming over! |
This is the main reason that I didn't get an extensive medical check in the US was because of that reason. In addition, it was quite impossible to get a chest X-Ray anyways without a doctor's note. I guess in the US they are more hesitant to expose people to radiation.
It is hard for me to believe that some people refuse to understand that these new restrictions will make it a royal pain to renew a E-2 VISA. I don't even think they are weeding out the bad teachers instead they will just be getting rid of all teachers (good and bad). I like to think of myself as a good teacher and I treat my job very seriously but if I have to go back to the US to deal with tons of bureaucratic crap then I will just teach in another country that doesn't require so much. |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| it will defintely improve the situation for the vets here, who really take thier job seriously. |
wrong. It will just make it a pain in the ass for those not on the F visa series. Being married to a Korean does not make one a serious teacher. Having to deal with all this extra bullshit is likely to drive serious teachers out of the country. Yes there are far more E2 teachers than F teachers so there is a potential windfall for F teachers, but it could also backfire in that contact hours will go up and vacation down.
Anyhow don't assume that only the unmotivated lousy teachers will leave.
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| I aslo get the feeling that anyone who is put off by all this, and planning not to return, are in fact the very people the Korean government hope to erdicate. |
I get the feeling from the above that you are a pompous arrogant ass with no friends. |
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madowlspeaks
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Location: Somewhere in time and space
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: Apostille |
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Okay, so how is it that a USA citizen gets an Apostille?
and PLEASE stay on topic with this |
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gimmesome3k
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Location: Sanbon
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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All of this crap is a good reason not to stay in Korea! Even as it is, a visa run to Japan is costly if you end up signing up with a company that only retroactively pays for your airfare to japan and leaves you stranded there for two weeks telling you that "tomorow, tomorrow" your visa registration # will come through, so please don't travel around the country and enjoy yourself (sorry venting about unpleasant English Village experiences...lol) ANYWAYS
It seems as though these new measures, if adopted will cause unneccessary waiting times and financial burdens on all parties involved.
As it is, the stupid public school I'm working at now wasn't satisfied with my original degree and sealed transcripts. They wanted a photocopy of my alumni card and something that was roughly translated to me as "your name and your university name on same page from internet".
yeah. then they got confused when my alumni card # didn't match my student ID # on my transcript.
@$(*#&*$&#!!!! |
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bodybydada
Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Location: Jinju
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Apostille |
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Okay, so how is it that a USA citizen gets an Apostille?
and PLEASE stay on topic with this |
methinks you have to ask for the "freedom seal" instead.
seriously, I don't know, but it sounds to me like it would be easier just to get the korean embassy to notarize a copy of the criminal report, etc. The Apostille simply means that they'll accept an official letter from your government as though it were notarized by Korean officials. It does not address whether a crime report issued by your local police station constitutes a letter from your government, but it would be unwise to assume that it does. After all, you'll have to go to the embassy anyway... |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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It seems to me that these new regulations will have the following effects:
It may encourage people to re-sign for a job that they would otherwise have
left. ( another year with a crap job is better than going through all this needless garbage just to change jobs, which may or may not be any better)
It may also mean that even more people are going to stay for 1 year only.
What it will do is eliminate people (like me) who came 1 year at a time and worked in different jobs each year. Not that this will be impossible, but it will be such a huge pain in the arse that no one will want to do it.
I don't know how this will make things better, if anything it will lower the quality of teachers because now even more will be the "I'm only here for a year and I don't give a flying f**k" type.
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