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i-to-i.com Recruiting. Pay $900 and MAYBE get a job?

 
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:44 am    Post subject: i-to-i.com Recruiting. Pay $900 and MAYBE get a job? Reply with quote

i-to-i.com

They have a good website with a lot of traffic, but I can't believe this. Along with your resume and photo, you have to send them $895. This will get you a weekend TEFL course and an 'introduction' to a Korean recruiter called ESL ED. Who is obviously making their full pop of the school's recruitment fee.

i-to-i says in their contract:

"Upon receipt of your application form and full payment, we will process your application and carry out preliminary checks. If you are initially unsuccessful at this stage, you will be refunded the full fee.

1.3 However, we will keep the full fee to cover our costs if:

1.3.1 you are successful at the initial stage but you later withdraw from the programme; or

1.3.2 due to the outcome of any further checks are carried out, it is later necessary for us or ESL ED. Korea to withdraw you from the programme or

1.3.3 you are not accepted as an English teacher by ESL ED. Korea or do not find a suitable placement once in Korea.

1.4 The fee covers payment for our services in introducing you to ESL ED. Korea and in arranging for you to take a TEFL course."

What concerns me is that this is a well-travelled site (Alexa ranking- 64,710) and they have over 500 links to them. Which might make for a lot of hood-winked teachers.

Has any one ever dealt with or heard of these guys?
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saharzie



Joined: 22 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scum..just like all these other organizations out there who will generously get you a job in a rubber plantation in Nicaragua or a radio station in Ghana for some exorbitant fee...It is almost impossible to volunteer anywhere these days without paying some huge fee to these parasites.

Although, if people are lazy enough to actually pay these clowns a fee that size in order to teach in some crapwon..then they probably deserve what they get......
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect it is a throwback to the days when Korea would give you a work visa if you had a 2-year diploma (instead of a degree they now require) so long as you completed one of those TEFL courses prior to coming over. And most companies used to charge $600 or more anyway, so $895 for the course and lining up a job isn't that crazy.

It just seems out of place now that the TEFL course option can no longer be used to get a visa.
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a job offer. Lots of people in this world would give anything for that. Stop dissing recruiters and other helpful people.

Here is your silver spoon, must I feed you?
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bb: considering that every other recruiter in Korea finds you jobs for free I think they qualify as sneaky bastards.

Gord: $600 for just a weekend course? Wow.
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saxiif wrote:
bb: considering that every other recruiter in Korea finds you jobs for free I think they qualify as sneaky bastards.


But in that case, the recruiter works for the school and the needs of the teacher are a distant secondary concern. Personally, I would rather pay the recruiter a percentage of my salary that way they have a serious invested interest in making sure I'm a happy camper, or the money train is moving onto the next recruiter.

If I decide to stick around and marry a local, that's how I would work.

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Gord: $600 for just a weekend course? Wow.


If you knew that $600 course was the only way to land you a job abroad and get to hang around in another country, I would have signed up.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buddy bradley wrote:
It's a job offer. Lots of people in this world would give anything for that. Stop dissing recruiters and other helpful people.

Here is your silver spoon, must I feed you?


Psst....I am a recruiter and in the business of helping people. Didn't you pick up on my helpfulness by posting this info in the spirit of trying to save teachers money, given that all other recruiters don't charge teachers?

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It's a job offer

No, it isn't. Read their contract details and read the part where the $895 does not guarantee a job offer, but only an TEFL training course and an introduction to a recruiter that might be able to come up with a job.

After me posting the link AND posting the same information, you are still too lazy to read it? Leaving me to have to 'spoon feed' you the information? Put down your bag of chips and reread the info about this company, before jumping down throats with baseless assumptions.
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Crois



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: You could be next so watch out.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went through ESD ED i think you mentioned. I thought why bother paying when i could check on the internet and only pay 200� or 350$ for my TEFL course which isnt even necessory in this country. ESD ED No problems, they just did everything for me.

Whats the point of going through i-to-i to try and get a job. Who wants to pay to work in some other country when you could be getting a shit load here in comparasion.

Yours faithfully
Love Crois
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ratslash



Joined: 08 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why pay?

got a degree? you don't need a teaching course.

got a brain with has a pinch of common sense within it? you don't need a recruiter.

simple really.
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll place you for only a $500 fee. E-mail [email protected]
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahahaaaaaa. things must be getting worse on the job front when profiteering guys like these are actually getting a foothold on the scene...
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree with the "you don't need a recruiter" comment somewhat. It is getting harder to find a job now without a recruiter, and some of them are helpful and make it easier. More and more employers are using them. Well, OK, you don't NEED a recruiter to find a job, but I think it would be foolish to REFUSE to use a recruiter and thus limit your job options.
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