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MA_TESOL



Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Are You Friends With Your Students? Reply with quote

If teaching adults do you allow yourself to be friends with your students, or do you maintain a professional distance?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I attempt to be friendly with all my students and have become friends with some of them. In 5 years of teaching in this specific environment and 4 more in a similar environment, it has never been a problem.

I listened to an interesting conversation with two of my students the other day. They were in pairs discussing questions and one of the questions was something like: It is very important for an English teacher to be friendly with students. The two students I was listening to on that question said they didn't agree with the statement. Both agreed that a good teacher has good teaching skills. Some people lack that and 'cover it' with being friendly to students. These two students said that students in general wouldn't complain but that they prefered a teacher with good skill over a friendly teacher.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the beginning of every semester when I'm laying doing smack and just after telling them the umpteen ways that they can lose grades I tell my students that I'm friendly but not a friend.
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the adults I teach are older (much older) than I (they're either fellow teachers or my regular students' mothers) and so I'm friendly, almost to the point of being obsequious...I disgust myself sometimes, laughing at their insipid poorly formed jokes/stories.

But friends? Nope.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

friendly but not friends. I'll say hi to you at Starbucks or on the subway, but I"m not going to meet you for coffee.

There's a line and I'm not about to cross it. Professionalism at all times, all it takes is one person misconstruing a meeting between you and a student and you'll be smack dab in the middle of your own personal spectrumgate.

and one other thing any meetings in my office the door stays open, I don't care what the weather is like - cold or hot. I will not be alone in an office with a student and have the door closed.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never taught a Korean adult that didn't want to become my best friend forever and ever.

Now, I can understand why, since I'm so adorable, but it got to the point that I stopped doing privates*

I'm someone who likes his space, and privacy, and respecting that is just not part of the culture.

*Ooops! Shhhh! Privates are illegal.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah..i work at a hagwon and when we first started, they had a clever idea! let's include the teacher's resume in the handouts to give to the students and their family! nevermind that it has his email and cell number!

one student especially, a rather poor student, decided he really wanted to be my friend. texting, calling, and getting really offended the next day when i wouldn't answer. he'd say "oh but you're not old enough to be my 'senior' - we're friend age" (even though i've graduated college and he has neither done that nor been to the military, just a few years of slacking).

another funny thing is when former students (Again, adults) add me on facebook....yep...welcome to limited profile.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reactionary wrote:
another funny thing is when former students (Again, adults) add me on facebook....yep...welcome to limited profile.

if that ever happened I would deny friend request.

besides I have a student email, a spam email (facebook) and a real email for everything else.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Are You Friends With Your Students? Reply with quote

MA_TESOL wrote:
If teaching adults do you allow yourself to be friends with your students, or do you maintain a professional distance?

During the semester/course/class, friendly but maintain professional distance.

After the semester/course/class ends, I've developed a few friendships with some. Several have become my closest of friends, and a couple others have developed romantically.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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f that ever happened I would deny friend request.

besides I have a student email, a spam email (facebook) and a real email for everything else.


yeah, that's the problem. they got my email from my RESUME,which was never meant for them to see.

limited profile on facebook works well though. you can control it so they can't see a goddam thing except your name and location. (i've also used this for some annoying expats who find me on there too)
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reactionary wrote:
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f that ever happened I would deny friend request.

besides I have a student email, a spam email (facebook) and a real email for everything else.


yeah, that's the problem. they got my email from my RESUME,which was never meant for them to see.

limited profile on facebook works well though. you can control it so they can't see a goddam thing except your name and location. (i've also used this for some annoying expats who find me on there too)

My uni students are given:
- my school email address (which is separate from my personal email address)
- my cyworld address (email is not public), and
- my Yahoo Messenger ID (only used for school, MSN is for friends)

School world and Personal world are completely separate. Very few students transition from one to the other. It's happened, but only AFTER I am no longer their teacher.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. Like I said, it was done without my permission, and I was pretty damn angry at the school because of it.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reactionary wrote:
I agree. Like I said, it was done without my permission, and I was pretty damn angry at the school because of it.

You think you were angry... my last uni gave students my phone number and MY ADDRESS, so they could contact me directly to complain about their grades (rather than just say that the deadline for grade-changing has passed).

Thank god I was already in Japan on vacation. They got more than an earful for the violation of privacy.
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I worked at an adults hakwan, I used to go out for lunches etc with students.

Gives them an oportunity to speak english in a social environment and out of the classroom which is SO valuable to language learners.

Also I got to finsh class early a few times and got treated (Even though I insisted on paying sometimes, they never let me and I DID TRY) to some great meals and drinking sessions.

I saw one around in Ilsan recently and we stopped and had a chat which was nice.

Don't see the harm in it as long there are no assumptions about it.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, i did the lunch thing once or twice.

once an ajumma was in the class, so she just whipped out her husband's credit card and paid for EVERYONE. cool with that.

other times, though, with university students...not only did they not treat me, they tried to pull the whole "oh, you're older, our teacher (yeah 4 or 5 years older) - you should treat us!"

pffffft. yeah, i really enjoyed your company that much.
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