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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: Kang Eun-hee: Korean English Teachers |
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Korean English Teachers
By Kang Eun-hee
Last year one native English teacher was assigned to our school. Our school became livelier than before. Especially on Halloween the students made much ado about candies.
Our satisfied principal publicized it to the parents on a gigantic scale, but after a few months we returned to the daily routine.
One day I started to wonder if the temporary employment of native English teachers could fulfill our expectations: I have arrived at the conclusion based on my experiences.
In the long run, the expansion of intensive training programs for Korean English teachers is more urgent financially, than the employment of native English teachers.
Additionally, Korean English teachers are aware of the importance of the quality of English education and the emotional effect it has on the students.
We will probably waste the national treasury in the long term, unless the government invests a lot more in training Korean English teachers rather than depending on the temporarily employed native English teachers.
The yearly cost for employing one native English teacher is approximately 45 million won in our school. The amount is almost as much as the gross income of a 25-year veteran Korean teacher (excluding the pension).
American English teachers accept many financial preferences. They are exempted from income taxes for two years and the rate of the pension and the health insurance is lower than ours.
Even the overtime pay is different. While they earn 20,000 won per teaching session, we get only 6,000 won. This is comparable to the 13.5 million won a trainee at the Korea National University of Education (KNUE) gets for six months.
One year intensive English training programs seem to be enough because we've already learned a lot about the methodology, grammar and reading from our former education. That means only two-thirds of the expenses for one native English teacher can create high value.
It's not easy for the native English teachers to understand the student's personality or his or her level of former learning achievement. One of the most important effects on the students through education is in the emotional aspect.
The teachers have to take into consideration the background or the character of each student. However this is difficult for our native English teacher, because she teaches more than 800 students, i.e. twenty-one classes each week.
One day she asked a student who couldn't read or write to the front of the class to do some activities. The abashed student cried.
Additionally, if the native English teacher does not have any background knowledge of the Korean culture, they have difficulty relating to the students.
Most of our students enjoyed the class with the native English teacher because many of them rarely had the chance to talk with foreigners; also the class structure allowed them move around freely compared to the formal grammar classes.
However, to their grief, they soon ran out of English words they knew and started to lose interest and in turn became stressed.
The effect of the native English teacher employment is noteworthy in the short term.
Though we are not sure if the native English teachers help us curb soaring private education expenses as the government asserted, we can't deny that many Korean English teachers are motivated to improve and many students share in the benefits of having opportunities to acquire live language.
Education issues and decisions should be dealt with considering the long-term outcomes. The government must make investments ― with long-term plans ― in the training programs, and create highly qualified Korean English teachers who can keep up with the requirements of the times.
Kang Eun-hee is presently studying in the intensive English teacher training program at the Korea National University of Education in Seoul. She has been teaching English in middle schools for thirty years. She is now an English teacher in Bongwon Middle School in Seoul. She can be reached at [email protected]
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2007/11/137_14226.html |
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Teufelswacht
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if this English teacher knows the meaning of her e-mail address. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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The yearly cost for employing one native English teacher is approximately 45 million won in our school. The amount is almost as much as the gross income of a 25-year veteran Korean teacher (excluding the pension).
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If it costs 45 million won per year for the teacher, then how come we're only getting about 30 of that?
Somebody is pocketing some money, and that is what the response needs to be about. |
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tiger fancini

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Location: Testicles for Eyes
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Kang Eun-hee: Korean English Teachers |
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Kang Eun-hee wrote: |
One day she asked a student who couldn't read or write to the front of the class to do some activities. The abashed student cried.
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I see tears on a regular basis, usually resulting from the corporal punishment of a Korean teacher. This is one incident. Of course, native teachers don't understand the emotional needs of students.  |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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I guess it's 30M-if that,mind-for salary,pension,whatnot and 10-15M for housing deposit,which of course is refunded.
The O/T thing is a crock.20K is the going rate FOR ALL.Not my fault she got duped. |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder what would happen if a waygook would write an article about their public school? Dollars to donuts, the waygook would get fired. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Kang Eun-hee: Korean English Teachers |
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tiger fancini wrote: |
Kang Eun-hee wrote: |
One day she asked a student who couldn't read or write to the front of the class to do some activities. The abashed student cried.
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I see tears on a regular basis, usually resulting from the corporal punishment of a Korean teacher. This is one incident. Of course, native teachers don't understand the emotional needs of students.  |
Where was the co-teacher when this happened. Sitting in the staff room shopping online. I believe one of the goals of co-teaching is to bridge the language and cultural gaps. |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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all those 'financial preferences'! i wonder why this teacher doesn't mention things like culture shock, stress, not being able to see family and friends, ... no, it's a bucket of roses and three liters of champagne! |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Kang Eun-hee: Korean English Teachers |
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Fishead soup wrote: |
tiger fancini wrote: |
Kang Eun-hee wrote: |
One day she asked a student who couldn't read or write to the front of the class to do some activities. The abashed student cried.
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I see tears on a regular basis, usually resulting from the corporal punishment of a Korean teacher. This is one incident. Of course, native teachers don't understand the emotional needs of students.  |
Where was the co-teacher when this happened. Sitting in the staff room shopping online. I believe one of the goals of co-teaching is to bridge the language and cultural gaps. |
Exactly. Coteaching..that term is non existent at my school. They never provide input so how am I supposed to know if I'm doing something wrong (ie: calling a bashful studet to the front?)...and plus it's not as if it's the end of the world. So what if the student can't read or write...should we just exclude him from the class and not expect anything from him? |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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She brings up some reasonable points; however, she's still really missing the mark. What is really needed is:
1) Standards. Korean English teachers should not be allowed into the classroom until they have proven a level of fluency that would allow them to use English as the language of instruction.
2) Incentives for foreigners. Perhaps they could attract and retain more experienced FTs who are familiar with Korean culture and will stick around long enough to get to know some of the students if there were better incentives. |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
She brings up some reasonable points; however, she's still really missing the mark. What is really needed is:
1) Standards. Korean English teachers should not be allowed into the classroom until they have proven a level of fluency that would allow them to use English as the language of instruction.
2) Incentives for foreigners. Perhaps they could attract and retain more experienced FTs who are familiar with Korean culture and will stick around long enough to get to know some of the students if there were better incentives. |
1,That would NOT sit well with the KTU and they would fight tooth and claw against it.
2,"But,we give you a job..there's your incentive" |
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mrgiles
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if this English teacher knows the meaning of her e-mail address. |
infantile, irrelevant, and in no way helpful to discussion. thanks 4 ur input, mate.
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If it costs 45 million won per year for the teacher, then how come we're only getting about 30 of that?
Somebody is pocketing some money, and that is what the response needs to be about. |
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The yearly cost for employing one native English teacher is approximately 45 million won in our school. The amount is almost as much as the gross income of a 25-year veteran Korean teacher (excluding the pension). |
seeing these two quotes together makes the former look like a grossly insensitive and flippant knee-jerk reaction.
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I wonder what would happen if a waygook would write an article about their public school? Dollars to donuts, the waygook would get fired. |
i don't really see how what u mean could be true. foreigners write sh.t abt their schools all the time and remain employed. we're doing it right now, aren't we?
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all those 'financial preferences'! i wonder why this teacher doesn't mention things like culture shock, stress, not being able to see family and friends, |
i agree. such considerations are the only ones which make me feel a little less embarrassed about how comparatively overpaid and cushy my "job" here is.
i think the op is well written and addresses important issues clear-headedly. don't get me wrong, i LOVE my job here. it's probably the best job i've had. but i love it because it's a bit of a joke. i hardly do ANYTHING. by today i would have taught just 15 classes this week. that translates into less than 9 hours of teaching time (i think, but my maths suck). it's crazy i get paid as much as i do and live in a really nice place etc, especially when i compare it to my korean friends who either work their arses off (one is a mechanic that works 12 hours a day 6 days a week for a pittance; another works 24 hour shifts at a resort every second day) or are desperate to find a job. can't help but feel a little spoiled. |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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mrgiles wrote: |
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I wonder if this English teacher knows the meaning of her e-mail address. |
infantile, irrelevant, and in no way helpful to discussion. thanks 4 ur input, mate.
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i laughed, though. fungus. hee-hee! |
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mrgiles
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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fungus...that's a funny word. can i use it in my next skit? |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of good rebuttal points... so, who's going to write it and send it in? |
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