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renzobenzo1
Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Location: Suji, Yongin
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: No such thing as a free lunch? |
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Where does it stipulate in the contract that you have to pay for your lunch.
Seems like a grey matter to me.
I just got told that I have to shell out 90,000 to pay for the last 3 months and the forthcoming month of eating sloppy Joes cafetaria food that tastes like bleep most of the time.
I bet you my boss is pocketing the money himself.
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: No such thing as a free lunch? |
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renzobenzo1 wrote: |
Where does it stipulate in the contract that you have to pay for your lunch.
Seems like a grey matter to me.
I just got told that I have to shell out 90,000 to pay for the last 3 months and the forthcoming month of eating sloppy Joes cafetaria food that tastes like bleep most of the time.
I bet you my boss is pocketing the money himself.
When I was told that the school was going to charge me for my lunch. I told them NO THANKS and I started bringing my own lunch.
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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All the teachers have to pay. If you eat in the cafeteria, you do too. I take my lunch everyday, so I don't pay. |
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spirit2110

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Location: I am with Dan Druff. Nice guy, you should meet him.
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Is this a pub school job? If so, I have yet to come across a contract where lunch is mentioned. If there is no mention, say no plain and simple!
Not in the contract, not your problem. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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spirit2110 wrote: |
Is this a pub school job? If so, I have yet to come across a contract where lunch is mentioned. If there is no mention, say no plain and simple!
Not in the contract, not your problem. |
It's not that easy. Nothing in the contract says you are provided free lunch. If you take it, then you should be paying for it. I was hit with a 6 month bill once because no one bothered to tell me my lunch money wasn't deducted from my paycheck like the K-teachers. I ate it, I paid it.
If you refuse to pay it, I guarantee you will have a problem in your school.
90,000 is cheap, too, that's less than 2 months of lunch at my school (but my school hires a private company that does an excellent job). |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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i used to eat in the cafe each and every day and pay about 50,000W a month. now i just bring my own, and save a bit of money. i liked the food, but the cafe with the other teachers was not a foreigner-friendly place at my school
just bring your own lunch, i really enjoy lunch now because all the teachers in my office leave for about 30min...it's really nice to have some peace and quiet  |
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spirit2110

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Location: I am with Dan Druff. Nice guy, you should meet him.
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. Incredible. Let's charge 'em for their sucky cafteria lunch? I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
This is South Korea, after all. |
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renzobenzo1
Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Location: Suji, Yongin
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop wrote: |
spirit2110 wrote: |
Is this a pub school job? If so, I have yet to come across a contract where lunch is mentioned. If there is no mention, say no plain and simple!
Not in the contract, not your problem. |
It's not that easy. Nothing in the contract says you are provided free lunch. If you take it, then you should be paying for it. I was hit with a 6 month bill once because no one bothered to tell me my lunch money wasn't deducted from my paycheck like the K-teachers. I ate it, I paid it.
If you refuse to pay it, I guarantee you will have a problem in your school.
90,000 is cheap, too, that's less than 2 months of lunch at my school (but my school hires a private company that does an excellent job). |
I work at 2 public schools.....in this case I am only there 2 days a week...so it works out to about $3 for a meal of slop.
At the other school, I have to take my own lunch as the school stupidly decided to undertake rennovations to the school cafe 2 months before the end of the semester....stoopid, stoopid, stoopid.
Like I said it seems to be a grey matter.
That and the fact that I was told my utility bills would be very cheap are starting to piss me off as the combination of this 2 payments of about 100,000+ won a month is starting to piss me off  |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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spirit2110 wrote: |
Wow. Incredible. Let's charge 'em for their sucky cafteria lunch? I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
This is South Korea, after all. |
Then don't eat the food. After the first semester, I couldn't eat any more of the food at my school, so I opted out of the food plan and go out to eat every day. I'm spending more money but at least I can choose what kind of food I want and the quality is MUCH better. |
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spirit2110

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Location: I am with Dan Druff. Nice guy, you should meet him.
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't. But, it's being told 6, 7, 8 months after the fact that's the problem. It seems that this is yet another thing that one should clarify with their school from the very beginning. |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Well if they never told you that beforehand that you would have to pay for the lunch then I don't see why you would be obligated to make back payments. Try to ration with them and explain that nobody ever mentioned it to you, nor is it written in the contract. If there was a charge, then it should have been deducted from your salary, but not 3 months after the fact. |
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Snowkr
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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It was definitely was an oversight.
They should have been more organized and deducted it from your salary.
I found out my second week that lunch was not free at my school. As soon as I realized this, I stopped going to the cafeteria. Up until that point, I'd only been eating rice and very occassionally a spoonful of soup.
I don't eat most Korean food and everyone knows it.
Fortunately a teacher had the foresight to tell me that I was wasting my money by signing in for lunch and only eating rice. She said it would be better to just not "eat" and let the other teachers bring me rice if I still wanted it. So sweet...
Since then, my principal and co-teachers have taken me out to lunch almost each week.. sometimes more than once. Otherwise I just bring food from home.
Our cafeteria food is so unappealing that even the Korean teachers have started going out for lunch. I do think that foreign teachers should be required to pay as well but it really should be stated clearly in the contract. I think there must be some public schools that really do provide free lunch but I'm sure they're few and far between.
It was very unprofessional of them to just charge you after the fact, OP, but I'm afraid that logic and common sense if often lost in this culture. I feel very blessed to be where I am. My co-teachers have a clue. |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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It does suck to be hit with a large sum, but come on, it's not unreasonable to be charged for lunch. Everybody else does it, all the teachers and students. Stuff like this and bus/subway fare are petty, Mickey Mouse -type things you should let slide. Not only will it make your life easier to not bitch about it, but you'll more than make it up in free dinners, coffee, rides, mandarin oranges, bread, and the other little treats they provide. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: No such thing as a free lunch? |
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renzobenzo1 wrote: |
Where does it stipulate in the contract that you have to pay for your lunch.
Seems like a grey matter to me.
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Mmm, brains. |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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I'm not a PS teacher, but my lunches at the cafeteria are free, and it's written in my contract.
The only thing is that because I'm vegetarian, I don't eat most of it anyway. I take rice and some of the side dishes (usually a couple of helpings to make up for the mains that I don't take) and the cafeteria ladies are super nice and often come and bring me dried seaweed to eat with my rice, or ddokguki(?) if there is some. Once they even brought me cream of broccoli soup! Occasionally there's fruit, and I'll take a double serving of that.
Even so, most of the time I'll sit down with my tray of food and my bosses or my coworkers will look at me like I'm some poor starving girl. "Ohhh, so little food! It looks so sad."
I think it's something that should definitely be mentioned in advance! If it were unclear in my case (like, if it hadn't been in the contract), and then it turned out I'd have to pay to eat there, I'd be quite annoyed, because otherwise I'd never eat there. For a free meal, sure, I'll double check with the cafeteria people if there's any meat in the dishes there, but it wouldn't be worth the hassle of it if I had to pay. I'd probably pay it anyway and just not eat there anymore, but I'd be pretty annoyed! |
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