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TBF



Joined: 20 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Vegans in Korea Reply with quote

Hi,

I was wondering are there any vegans out there? I'm interviewing for teaching positions and it seems like many recruiters and schools (well 5 total) are worried that I might not have anything substantial to eat. They claim everything has meat or cooked in it. Are they over exaggerating? I'm sure I'll be fine, just cook for myself and I know that there is a vegetarian meet up group that is active, from past posts I've read. Is the lifestyle easier in some location than others? Just wondering. I'm sure all will be fine, its just strange that they seemed to be concerned.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Vegans in Korea Reply with quote

TBF wrote:
Hi,

I was wondering are there any vegans out there? I'm interviewing for teaching positions and it seems like many recruiters and schools (well 5 total) are worried that I might not have anything substantial to eat. They claim everything has meat or cooked in it. Are they over exaggerating? I'm sure I'll be fine, just cook for myself and I know that there is a vegetarian meet up group that is active, from past posts I've read. Is the lifestyle easier in some location than others? Just wondering. I'm sure all will be fine, its just strange that they seemed to be concerned.


You will be fine in most places, but Seoul is the best option. You may not be able to eat anything at school (except rice) on occasions, but as long as you don't mind cooking for yourself, you'll be fine. Supermarkets here are similar to back home. Eating out is the difficult part, and much will depend on the helpfulness of your co-workers as to whether they can find out suitable restaurants. If you're in Seoul, however, you'll have more than enough options.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure a vegan could have a great time in India or Japan, but here you'll just be missing out on most foods. Not sure why so many vegans come here, but they all go home either ex-vegans or a hell of a lot skinnier.
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madprops



Joined: 25 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
I'm sure a vegan could have a great time in India or Japan, but here you'll just be missing out on most foods. Not sure why so many vegans come here, but they all go home either ex-vegans or a hell of a lot skinnier.


I didn't know that many vegans have come here! I only know one other vegan.

I've been vegan for about 6 years now and have had no difficulty in Korea (a few minor issues, nothing major). I've gained weight and muscle (thanks to the gym I frequent).

Being vegan in Korea is not difficult, particularly if you've been one for a number of years. If you're new to it, you will have to adjust just as anywhere. Sometimes you'll discover that the veg. food is actually not completely veg. but you'll learn, live and move on to some other food. In Seoul, in particular, there are many veg. restaurants which serve mostly vegan food.
I live in a small town, and don't have problems either (even considering I don't eat tofu).
Online shopping will be very useful!

Also, if you are able to cook, that helps. I cook every day, and I enjoy it. Also, working at a public school isn't a problem. I just go home for lunch or bring my own food. The Korean teachers are usually curious and ask if they can try it (that, or laugh).
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be hard to be vegan here if you went out a lot to eat. If you cook stuff yourself, no problem.

I cook most of my own meals. I eat lunches in the cafeteria and just don't take any meat or fish dishes.

I've been here three months and only eaten in restaurants maybe... 5 times.

(BTW, I'm vegetarian, but not vegan)
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falldownstumble



Joined: 24 Mar 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I'm vegan, living in Seoul for nine months now. It's perfectly easy to buy supermarket food and cook for yourself. There are plenty of vegan things to eat when you eat at home.

Like others said, the vast majority of prepared Korean food is not vegan. If you want to try Korean food though, there are a number of vegetarian Korean restaurants that are actually mostly vegan. (check out www.happycow.net)

The Itaewon neighborhood is also a good option for eating out, as there are tons of non-Korean restaurants (Indian, Middle Eastern, Thai, Chinese, etc.) and the staff tend to speak decent English in that area so you can double-check ingredients.

If you do like eating out, I wouldn't really recommend living outside of Seoul. I've traveled to other parts of Korea and it's really hard to find any restaurants that have vegan food (and English-speaking staff.)

That said, if eating out isn't that important to you, anywhere that has a decent supermarket should be just fine!

Bottom line, don't let anyone discourage you from coming to Korea--you can definitely be vegan here (without starving or being overwhelmed enough to quit, contrary to what previous posters have claimed!)
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boogiet



Joined: 03 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, how vegan are you> Do you eat fish oils? If so, you'll be fine with alot of dishes. However you will have to learn:
bego: without
obshi: without
I don't know how they differ, but when I don't want something that works.
realize they WILL cook generally with a fish oil or pig oil.
My bro is vegan and I have advised that he meet me later in another country instead of coming here.
BT
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm vegetarian; however, I do eat fairly often at a vegan place near Seomyeon Station in Busan. Go out Exit 11 and walk straight down the road until just past the KB* building. The very next building has two stairwells on the left side that are side-by-side. Go into the right-hand one of the two and go up to the 2nd floor. It's an all-you-can-eat buffet and costs 1,100 won per person. Drinks are extra except, of course, for the self-serve water. {I think the hostess is quite cute, too, so it's fun to watch her while there. Her English is pretty good also so you won't have to worry about misunderstandings.}

For other vegetarian restaurants, check this link and click on or scroll down to Korea. Those are vegetarian restaurants around the world run by one of the smaller Buddhist sects. I first discovered their restaurants while attending UC Davis. The restaurant was in the next town up the highway. I lived in Bucheon in Gyeong-gi Do in 2005 and one of their restaurants was fairly close to my apartment. Sadly that one closed. Anyway the food is delicious and there's quite a variety of it. Check out the websites listed in that link.

A note on getting vegetarian or vegan food here in Korea: You absolutely must be specific! "No meat" apparently does not mean "no ham" to the locals. Specify "no meat, no ham, no seafood, no shellfish." I have a shellfish allergy so I'm quite adamant about ensuring the message gets across when I go to a restaurant. For vegans, you must also specify "no honey, no eggs." I can't think of what other animal products are used in Korean cooking that we ovo-lacto vegetarians don't mind but aren't kosher/halal for vegans.
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kermo



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're vegan in Korea, don't bother eating out at Korean restaurants. They'll put fish broth in all sorts of stuff and "vegetable" kimbab (rice roll) has ham. They'll say all sorts of things to make you happy, but there's no way to be sure. Even vegetarians have to be very very cautious.

There are plenty of vegans here in Korea making a go of it though, and I'm sure they'll respond to this thread eventually.
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rusty1983



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We live in the Countryside and my girlfriend is vegetarian.

She gets enough food to survive but its the same stuff on about 3 day rotation, she is not very happy with the food situation.

Dont expect anything wonderful of the food if you are not a meat eater
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madprops



Joined: 25 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
If you're vegan in Korea, don't bother eating out at Korean restaurants. They'll put fish broth in all sorts of stuff and "vegetable" kimbab (rice roll) has ham. They'll say all sorts of things to make you happy, but there's no way to be sure. Even vegetarians have to be very very cautious.

There are plenty of vegans here in Korea making a go of it though, and I'm sure they'll respond to this thread eventually.


That's simple. Tell them no ham, no egg! I do it. I've never had a problem. Even if you're not able to speak Korean, you simply point at what you want!

You can eat bibimbab, etc. Just tell them to omit some things like egg...ham.
Really it's not that difficult.
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jaderedux2



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlelisa wrote:
It would be hard to be vegan here if you went out a lot to eat. If you cook stuff yourself, no problem.

I cook most of my own meals. I eat lunches in the cafeteria and just don't take any meat or fish dishes.

I've been here three months and only eaten in restaurants maybe... 5 times.

(BTW, I'm vegetarian, but not vegan)


You do realize most of the stock in soups include melchi which is a small anchovy like fish. I have never seen any soup stock that doesn't include this little fishie. Also alot of soups are made from meat stocks, fish or bone.

So being "pure" can be tough.

Jade
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madprops wrote:
kermo wrote:
If you're vegan in Korea, don't bother eating out at Korean restaurants. They'll put fish broth in all sorts of stuff and "vegetable" kimbab (rice roll) has ham. They'll say all sorts of things to make you happy, but there's no way to be sure. Even vegetarians have to be very very cautious.

There are plenty of vegans here in Korea making a go of it though, and I'm sure they'll respond to this thread eventually.


That's simple. Tell them no ham, no egg! I do it. I've never had a problem. Even if you're not able to speak Korean, you simply point at what you want!

You can eat bibimbab, etc. Just tell them to omit some things like egg...ham.
Really it's not that difficult.


You can tell them whatever you want, but Koreans are just not used to thinking in terms of "meat" and "non-meat." I've actually heard people say "There's no meat in here-- just ham." If you add to that the seafood factor, you're boned.

Also, what do you mean by "point at what you want"? In a restaurant, most menus are written in Korean on the wall. Even if you can see the food, how can you tell what's in the broth?

Bibimbab is safe without the egg, unless they put caviar on it. Vegetable kimbab is safe, unless they put egg, ham and imitation crab in it. If you watch them make it, you can ask them to omit. Tofu stew (doubu jiggae) or soybean stew (dwenjang jiggae) is sometimes safe, unless they make the broth with anchovies. I can't think of any way to be absolutely sure, unless you live by the maxim "ignorance is bliss."
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madprops



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
madprops wrote:
kermo wrote:
If you're vegan in Korea, don't bother eating out at Korean restaurants. They'll put fish broth in all sorts of stuff and "vegetable" kimbab (rice roll) has ham. They'll say all sorts of things to make you happy, but there's no way to be sure. Even vegetarians have to be very very cautious.

There are plenty of vegans here in Korea making a go of it though, and I'm sure they'll respond to this thread eventually.


That's simple. Tell them no ham, no egg! I do it. I've never had a problem. Even if you're not able to speak Korean, you simply point at what you want!

You can eat bibimbab, etc. Just tell them to omit some things like egg...ham.
Really it's not that difficult.


You can tell them whatever you want, but Koreans are just not used to thinking in terms of "meat" and "non-meat." I've actually heard people say "There's no meat in here-- just ham." If you add to that the seafood factor, you're boned.

Also, what do you mean by "point at what you want"? In a restaurant, most menus are written in Korean on the wall. Even if you can see the food, how can you tell what's in the broth?

Bibimbab is safe without the egg, unless they put caviar on it. Vegetable kimbab is safe, unless they put egg, ham and imitation crab in it. If you watch them make it, you can ask them to omit. Tofu stew (doubu jiggae) or soybean stew (dwenjang jiggae) is sometimes safe, unless they make the broth with anchovies. I can't think of any way to be absolutely sure, unless you live by the maxim "ignorance is bliss."


Usually, when I order kimbab, it is made right in front of me, so I point to the things I want put in it. I've had the "there's no meat" comment all over the world; in Canada, Brazil, Poland, Germany, etc. It's the same in Korea. One has to be explicit about it. In the town I'm in, the employees at the restaurants I frequent already know I'm vegan and know what that means. If I go to a different restaurant, I let them know. I've not had a problem, as I've said. My partner did, when ordering for me, even though he's Korean and eats meat, but I have not.

Again, just like in North America (or wherever you're from) you have to be explicit. If the language is a barrier that's another problem. I don't speak Korean that well, but I know the basic veg. vocabulary.

The only problems I've had is when buying frozen foods such as croquets or dumplings, which, in English, stated the ingredients as all vegan. Then, after eating it I realized there'd be pork despite it not being listed. So, I've discontinued buying frozen foods.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaderedux2 wrote:
littlelisa wrote:
It would be hard to be vegan here if you went out a lot to eat. If you cook stuff yourself, no problem.

I cook most of my own meals. I eat lunches in the cafeteria and just don't take any meat or fish dishes.

I've been here three months and only eaten in restaurants maybe... 5 times.

(BTW, I'm vegetarian, but not vegan)


You do realize most of the stock in soups include melchi which is a small anchovy like fish. I have never seen any soup stock that doesn't include this little fishie. Also alot of soups are made from meat stocks, fish or bone.

So being "pure" can be tough.

Jade


Yup, I know that. Soups are a hazard! But they usually have other veggie sides and I take more of that.

Same thing, people will tell you KimChi is vegetarian, and it's usually got fish paste in it.

Sometimes if there's really nothing, I'll just go back to my place (on campus) and eat there.
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