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How do you make more than 4m won/month Legally?
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: How do you make more than 4m won/month Legally? Reply with quote

I see these posts where folks brag about how much won they're raking in (good for them, btw), and I honestly can't see how that is possible unless:

1.) They're on an F-visa

or

2.) They're working illegally.

I am a relative newbie here, so I have a very hard time seeing how it's possible to make more than 3m / month (and that's high-end) while on an E-2 and not be working illegally.

Can anyone offer evidence / advice to the contrary?
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R-Seoul



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: your place

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot to add:

3.) They're not working in education.

Those of us working for international companies in Korea are most certainly earning 4m and up.
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skyline17



Joined: 09 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are ivy league and can teach AP sciences, math or SAT then u can start at 5million a month and up while on an e-2 gyopo or white. . . .princeton review starts newbies at 4mil

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Chillin' Villain



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Goo Row

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I got married (and got the F-2) I was making more than that because:

a) I got lucky and landed a job with a college that has a decent hour-for-hour contract (better than most I've seen lately)

b) Said college paid extra for overtime/institute classes/camps

c) Said college gave me permission for an extra morning job (which was a rare thing for them to do and I was lucky to get).

All legal.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw an ad the other day in the jobs section of this site for a corporate English teacher in a ship building company on Geoje island in the south.

It said, it requires a special candidate who can work across all the different departments and business groups of the company. It looked like a great job, but you have to be available right now and have a Korean drivers license to drive a company car. Probably intended for an F-2 holder with many years of experience, particularly in business English, but it didn't mention anything about required experience. If I were free right now, I would apply for it and go visit them during the daytime; all suited up since I have the appropriate degree and knowledge.

I wonder if there will be more business type jobs coming up? This was the first one I had seen advertised. I would be really charged up to join a real company to work with many different people in many different business units and profit centers and have a chance at a real professional career that pays at least US $50,000 a year or 50 million won a year. I am thinking that when the time if right, I can apply for jobs that are not advertised and maybe find something through contacting people, but it just takes time and effort while being unemployed.

I would bet that this is a great career opportunity, but requires very long hours. I would commit myself to a highly involved job to have a chance at building some real money up instead of chump change.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skyline17 wrote:
If you are ivy league and can teach AP sciences, math or SAT then u can start at 5million a month and up while on an e-2 gyopo or white. . . .princeton review starts newbies at 4mil


Interesting. I was reading in another thread about foreigners who teach TOEFL and SAT prep courses earning 5m +.

My question: Where does one find these jobs? I realize "networking" is the most obvious answer, but can anyone offer something concrete?

It seems that so many of the posters here are making "serious money" (by serious I mean more than 4m / month) yet no one seems to be able (or is it "willing"?) to talk about their experience, how they landed that golden job, or how we who are not "in the know" can at least apply for these positions.

*EDIT* I neglected to check my PM box--thanks to the guy who responded!

If anyone else feels more comfortable responding to my questions via PM, please don't hesitate!

Thanks,

EC
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I don't brag about how much I make and think those that do have an ego problem.

That being said, if you really want to make more money, build up some experience and work at a university. In addition to my base salary, I get paid more for specialized classes (like teacher training).
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discostar23



Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Location: getting the hell out of dodge

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is rare....

I make 3.5million at a hogwan. Shocked Twisted Evil (with no illegal work)

There are jobs out there...just look
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that hard. Although I'm not presently doing this, I have in the past.

During the semester:

University base salary for 12 hours + overtime + classes at the university hagwon + any other work around (the university allows it).

During the breaks:

University base salary for no hours + extra pay for summer/winter classes + university hagwon classes + any other work (including camps)
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:
Not that hard. Although I'm not presently doing this, I have in the past.

During the semester:

University base salary for 12 hours + overtime + classes at the university hagwon + any other work around (the university allows it).

During the breaks:

University base salary for no hours + extra pay for summer/winter classes + university hagwon classes + any other work (including camps)


Thanks for the input. Do typical unigwons allow you to find other work during your non-working hours?
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understand is that public universities (not sure about private ones) will not allow you to work outside the school regardless of your visa. In that case, the F-series visas don't really give you a big advantage.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
Thanks for the input. Do typical unigwons allow you to find other work during your non-working hours?


I don't think so. You need to teach in one of the departments. But, I'm not sure how many universities will sign you out to teach in other places.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
skyline17 wrote:
If you are ivy league and can teach AP sciences, math or SAT then u can start at 5million a month and up while on an e-2 gyopo or white. . . .princeton review starts newbies at 4mil


Interesting. I was reading in another thread about foreigners who teach TOEFL and SAT prep courses earning 5m +.

My question: Where does one find these jobs? I realize "networking" is the most obvious answer, but can anyone offer something concrete?

It seems that so many of the posters here are making "serious money" (by serious I mean more than 4m / month) yet no one seems to be able (or is it "willing"?) to talk about their experience, how they landed that golden job, or how we who are not "in the know" can at least apply for these positions.

*EDIT* I neglected to check my PM box--thanks to the guy who responded!

If anyone else feels more comfortable responding to my questions via PM, please don't hesitate!

Thanks,

EC


I'd be curious on info on places that hire TOEFL/AP/SAT teachers. Like 1/100 job postings are looking for that type of teacher.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SNU's ELI is hiring proofreaders to work over the net. The pay is probably around 10K/page and up, depending on the level of the work and the turnaround time. One way to up your salary for minimum effort.

Other universities are jumping on the bandwagon with this service.

Just one more way to generate income....
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skyline17



Joined: 09 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they arent too rare to find even if you teach just TOEFL, places like CDI will pay over 40,000 an hour for those classes. The other jobs are going to be at small boutique firms in which you are either going to need to know someone or have experience, your own curriculum, or your own clients that you can bring to the hagwon.
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