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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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 Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: P. Buchanan: "Day of Reckoning" |
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NEW BUCHANAN BOOK DECLARES 'END OF AMERICA'
Sun Nov 25 2007 20:40:15 ET
**Exclusive**
"America is coming apart, decomposing, and...the likelihood of her survival as one nation...is improbable -- and impossible if America continues on her current course," declares Pat Buchanan. "For we are on a path to national suicide."
The best-selling author and former presidential candidate is on the eve of launching his new epic book: DAY OR RECKONING: HOW HUBRIS, IDEOLOGY AND GREED ARE TEARING AMERICA APART.
This time, Buchanan goes all the way:
"America is in an existential crisis from which the nat
ion may not survive."
The U.S. Army is breaking and is too small to meet America�s global commitments.
The dollar has sunk to historic lows and is being abandoned by foreign governments.
U.S. manufacturing is being hollowed out.
The greatest invasion in history, from the Third World, is swamping the ethno-cultural core of the country, leading to Balkanization and the loss of the Southwest to Mexico.
The culture is collapsing and the nation is being deconstructed along the lines of race and class.
A fiscal crisis looms as the unfunded mandates of Social Security and Medicare remain unaddressed.
All these crises are hitting America at once -- a perfect storm of crises.
Specifically, Buchanan contends:
� Pax Americana, the era of U.S. global dominance, is over. A struggle for global hegemony has begun among the United States, China, a resurgent Russia and radical Islam
� Bush�s invasion of Iraq was a product of hubris and of ideology, a secular religion of �democratism,� to which Bush was converted in the days following 9/11
� Torn asunder by a culture war, America has now begun to break down along class, ethnic and racial lines.
� The greatest threat to U.S. sovereignty and independence is the scheme of a global elite to erase America�s borders and merge the USA, Mexico and Canada into a North American Union.
� Free trade is shipping jobs, factories and technology to China and plunging America into permanent dependency and unpayable debt. One of every six U.S. manufacturing jobs vanished under Bush
� �Sovereign Wealth Funds,� controlled by foreign regimes and stuffed with trillions of dollars from U.S. trade deficits, are buying up strategic corporate assets vital to America�s security
� As U.S. wages are stagnant, corporate CEOs are raking in rising pay and benefits 400 to 500 times that of their workers
� The Third World invasion through Mexico is a graver threat to our survival as one nation than anything happening in Afghanistan or Iraq
* European-Americans, 89% of the nation when JFK took the oath, are now 66% and sinking. Before 2050, America is a Third World nation
� By 2060, America will add 167 million people and 105 million immigrants will be here, triple the 37 million today.
� Hispanics will be over 100 million in 2050 and concentrated in a Southwest most Mexicans believe belongs to them
Buchanan�s Recommendations:
� A new foreign-defense policy that closes most of the 1000 bases overseas, reviews all alliances, and brings home U.S. troops
� A purge of neoconservative ideology and the �Cakewalk� crowd� from national power.
� To avert a second Cold War, the United States should �get out of Russia�s space and get out of Russia�s face,� and shut down all U.S. bases on the soil of the former Soviet Union
� To reach a cold peace in the culture war, Buchanan urges a return to federalism and the overthrow of our judicial dictatorship by Congressionally mandated restrictions on the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.
� To end the trade deficits and save the dollar, Buchanan urges a Hamiltonian solution: a 20% Border Equity Tax on imports, with the $500 billion raised to be used to end taxation on American producers
� To prevent America becoming �a tangle of squabbling nationalities� Buchanan urges: No amnesty for the 12-20 million illegal aliens; a border fence from San Diego to Brownsville; Congressional declarations that children born to illegal aliens are not citizens and English is the language of the United States; and a �timeout� on all immigration.
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Can you say, running as an Independent? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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World Anglican Leader "Launches Attack" On U.S.
Sun Nov 25, 11:38 AM ET
LONDON (Reuters) - Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, leader of the world's Anglicans, has launched an attack on the United States, saying it has lost the high moral ground since the September 11 attacks in 2001.
Williams, a longtime critic of the war in Iraq, said in uncharacteristically blunt language: "We have only one hegemonic power at the moment. It is not accumulating territory, it is trying to accumulate influence and control. That's not working."
Asked in an interview with the Muslim lifestyle magazine Emel, if he thought the United States had lost the high moral ground since the 9/11 attacks, he replied "Yes."
Drawing comparisons between British imperialism and the 21st Century United States, Williams said: "It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources into administering and normalizing it.
"Rig-thly or wrongly, that is what the British Empire did -- in India for example."
"It is another thing to go in on the assumption that a quick burst of violent action will somehow clear the decks and that you can move on and other people will put things back together again -- Iraq for example."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071125/ts_nm/religion_anglicans_usa_dc
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(Reporting by Paul Majendie) |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting that Buchanan, who cheerfully took part in the Culture Wars, has now decided that his (not his alone, mind you) tactics spell doom for the country.
Clearly he is right in identifying the problems confronting the country. Clearly he is wrong in stating them in apocolyptic terms. From the sounds of it, I'd say he is an alarmist.
I'm uncomfortable with his definition of America in ethnic terms rather than ideals, and therefore reject his solution to the immigration situation. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| Interesting that Buchanan, who cheerfully took part in the Culture Wars, has now decided that his (not his alone, mind you) tactics spell doom for the country. |
Well said. Buchanan didn't live through the rights movement of the '60s and the vietnam era of the '70s? Geez. Reagan sure seemed to polarize the '80s. Clinton touched off citizen militias.
Just a fat blow hard that wants to sell a book before Christmas. |
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Funkdafied
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
Location: In Da House
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
World Anglican Leader "Launches Attack" On U.S.
Sun Nov 25, 11:38 AM ET
LONDON (Reuters) - Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, leader of the world's Anglicans, has launched an attack on the United States, saying it has lost the high moral ground since the September 11 attacks in 2001.
Williams, a longtime critic of the war in Iraq, said in uncharacteristically blunt language: "We have only one hegemonic power at the moment. It is not accumulating territory, it is trying to accumulate influence and control. That's not working."
Asked in an interview with the Muslim lifestyle magazine Emel, if he thought the United States had lost the high moral ground since the 9/11 attacks, he replied "Yes."
Drawing comparisons between British imperialism and the 21st Century United States, Williams said: "It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources into administering and normalizing it.
"Rig-thly or wrongly, that is what the British Empire did -- in India for example."
"It is another thing to go in on the assumption that a quick burst of violent action will somehow clear the decks and that you can move on and other people will put things back together again -- Iraq for example."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071125/ts_nm/religion_anglicans_usa_dc
;_ylt=AgL3WgjS3drek4xmEEJEtOADW7oF
(Reporting by Paul Majendie) |
The leader of a church founded on the "values" of Henry 8th can hardly talk about moral high ground with any integrity. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Ah, another Christopher Hitchens fan!
Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield (and Perle, Wolfowitz (sp), Frum) should all face the noose. How many children have those bas.tards killed? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| I'm uncomfortable with his definition of America in ethnic terms rather than ideals, and therefore reject his solution to the immigration situation. |
I think he would make the argument that America is 'ideals' but that the polarization and ethnic/racial politics is stabbing those ideas in the heart. I don't know how true that is.
PB doesn't believe in a "white America" as America, but that the values of "white America" ought to be dominating the non-whites in America. If that makes any sense. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| If that makes any sense. |
No, it doesn't help.
Pat was at one time a Holocaust denier (he may have given that one up). However, I am suspicious of any ethnic statement made on any topic that touches on any ethnic issue whatever. Forgive me for not trusting someone after he says the Nazis weren't 'all that bad'. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I don't know anything about the dude. I had no idea he had those opinions about Nazi's etc. Maybe he did mean American should be white. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| If you think of Pat Buchanan as Ron Paul with less tact, you won't be far wrong. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| Can you say, running as an Independent? |
I think the Republican Party will cut a deal with whatever Religious Right movement tries to form a third national candidate, an eleventh hour sort of compromise, that would see an ULTRA-religious right winger as the vice-president nominee on the Republican ticket (to make up for Rudy's religious and right wing deficiencies, as they see it).
Rudy & the Religious Right, Prez and V.P, that'll be the ticket.
Just wait and see.
*and shudder* as to what'll happen to already well-criticized U.S. foreign policy |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| If you think of Pat Buchanan as Ron Paul with less tact, you won't be far wrong. |
Well I wasn't. Ron Paul would never talk about contrived culture wars. |
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Berghoff
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| PB doesn't believe in a "white America" as America, but that the values of "white America" ought to be dominating the non-whites in America. If that makes any sense. |
Yes, it does make sense. His last book was all about it.
It's the idea that the culture of America comes from the "Protestant Ethic," if you will, brought over from Europe. In his previous book his basic thesis is that our shared history is a part of our identity and the fact that we allow other cultures into the US without expecting them to assimilate is both a recent phenomenon and a danger to the country at large. He hypothesizes that in the past immigrants have conformed, but the current trend is too sympathetic, which Buchanan assumes will lead to the Southwest breaking off and joining Mexico. He supports some of his arguments remarkably well, especially the culture based on shared history and a few other things (it's been awhile since I read it...). He gets a little too caught up in his theories, IMHO. And from what I remember of that book, he made a lot of sweeping generalizations about race. Still, his arguments on culture are at least well argued and well researched.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan. Although I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a copy of the new book. Dude is pretty entertaining. |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan. Although I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a copy of the new book. Dude is pretty entertaining. |
That can certainly be true. Pat Buchanan on Iraq's WMDs and BLTs. No wonder some on this board are so upset about the war in Iraq; they thought it was a war over sandwiches.  |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I wasn't suggesting that you were. I was suggesting that you do. |
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