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Thailand and Diving/Cambodia's capital?
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altoid



Joined: 07 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:02 am    Post subject: Thailand and Diving/Cambodia's capital? Reply with quote

Going to Thailand/ Cambodia and I plan on getting a four day PADI certification. Can any one suggest a good place to go. Maybe even at least a suggestion on whether to go for the Andaman coast or the Gulf of Thailand? I've been looking at Koh Tao near Samui? What do you think. . . ?

Also, Cambodia. . definitely going to do Angkor Watt but not sure if we should take the time to go down to Phnom Penh? I know the killing fields are close and easy to reach but not sure if the added day of travel down there is worth taking from other things planned. Again. . any opinions are greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Al
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andaman Sea all the way. I never made it to the Similian(s) (islands), but I've heard really good things about them (they're off of Phuket); Don't know if there is an outfit there through which you can do your course check out dives though, but there are plenty of places on Phuket to do that.





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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're unsure of your abilities as a diver(never tried it, scared of being underwater, et cetera), you might want to go to Koh Tao?

There's a million different dive resorts there. If you want a relatively quiet and kind of cool resort, look into Buddha Dive. Otherwise, pretty much every other dive resort is on the main beach, which is pretty damn busy.
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Zed



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Thailand and Diving/Cambodia's capital? Reply with quote

altoid wrote:
Going to Thailand/ Cambodia and I plan on getting a four day PADI certification.

What is PADI exactly?
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professional Association of Dive Instructors=PADI
http://www.padi.com/


National Association of Underwater Instructors=NAUI
http://www.nauiww.org/index-side.html
Thank you for visiting NAUI Online, the Internet arm of the world's oldest and most respected international Scuba Training Agency.

At one time (around 20 years ago) PADI had an extremely bad reputation and there were countries/diveshops that refused to recognize a PADI licence. Times have changed and PADI is now the largest Diving organization in the world. You can't go wrong with either one, and PADI is certainly much more ubiquitous.
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Zed



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So are you looking for an intro licence or an instructors' licence?

There was an intro course available on the Perhentian Islands (Malaysia) when I was there in September. It was 3 or 4 days. Is this standard in most SE Asian diving areas?
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Thailand and Diving/Cambodia's capital? Reply with quote

altoid wrote:
Going to Thailand/ Cambodia and I plan on getting a four day PADI certification. Can any one suggest a good place to go. Maybe even at least a suggestion on whether to go for the Andaman coast or the Gulf of Thailand? I've been looking at Koh Tao near Samui? What do you think. . . ?Al


The Andaman coast is great: in my opinion better than the Gulf of Thailand for diving. However you must consider the time of year you will be going. Around January is good for the Andaman (i think.. you'd better check this) and bad for The Gulf... The monsoon seasons you know... DO a search on the net www.google.com for andaman dive shops. The similan and surin islands (andaman coast) are fantastic, amazing great diving (see my web site for some pics) but you'll probably not get there while doing a PADI; almost all of the maximum depths are beyond the entry level certification (Open Water) and the islands are usually reached via liveaboard. this is a 3 night 4 day boat excursion. However... it might be possible so why don't you do a search and ask each dive shop individually....

There are dive shops on the Andaman Coast: Phuket, PhiPhi Island, and Khao Lak (about 100km north of Phuket).

Ko Tao is maybe the cheapest place in the world to do a dive course but also a bit dodgy on the quality of education... they tend to rush divers through their courses too fast.
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andaman or Ko Tao?

Neither. Perhentian Islands in Malaysia.
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paji eh Wong wrote:
Andaman or Ko Tao?

Neither. Perhentian Islands in Malaysia.


Have you been to all three? I have not been to the Perentians. Would you rate them above Andamans? Have you been to Similan and Surins? They is some pretty damn good diving there...
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rapier



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phnom penh definitely left an impression on me. A desperately crazy, sad, abused, wild, poverty-stricken, soulful, tropical, warm, friendly, anarchic,happening place......Every nightmarish, potholed, road leads to the kingdom's capital.
My heart bleeds for the khmer people. But i'm never going back.
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Zed



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Perhentian Islands were great but I think you may be waliking into the rainy season about now. I believe everything shuts down there until early March.
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jacktar



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't personally dived KO Tao. I do know that it is very cheap. I've talked to new divers who said it was awesome. Every experienced diver who I've chatted to was majorly disappointed. I'm sure you'll love it if you go there. If you do, pick a shop that's smaller but has good facilities and experienced instructors. You don't want some guy with 101 dives teaching you your open water. Yes, this is possible. Try asking about shopts on the diving forum on the lonely planet website.

Andaman kicks ass. Phuket or Phi Phi are where you want to be. You're not going to want to blow your wad (of cash) on a liveaboard just yet. The diving is excellent there especially when you consider the number of divers who go there. It is not cheap however. Phi Phi especially. High season starts in January. The dives sites are beautiful even when you surface. Amazin scenery. I spent 5 weeks diving there last year. I loved it. Go with Moskito if you go there. Best boats on the island.


Both Redang and the Perhentians are comparable to to PP but Redang is a little better for corals. Redang = expensive, Perhentians = cheap.

I'm off it Sipadan in 1 week baby. My dream comes true. Whoopeeeeee!!!!!!!!1
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jacktar



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zed wrote:
The Perhentian Islands were great but I think you may be waliking into the rainy season about now. I believe everything shuts down there until early March.


Yup...It might be open but even if it is, it's closing real soon.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've done a bit of research cause i'm wanting the same thing.
I'm gonna be going at the start of march when the peak season ends.

I've looked into Phuket (and the day trips) and koh Samui. Both have ways to get PADI (ALSO what i want).

ALSO, sadly, i can only go for about 9 days. Which means VERY little time for PADI AND other dives.

Unfortunately, and this is BIG, i may not be able to go and may just go down to Namhae or Gujae Or Tongyung and try to get my PADI there.
HOW crappy would that be when you're "this close" to thailand.

i'm REALLY appreciating the advice thus far. Keep it up!
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jacktar



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were you Khyber, I'd start the course here. Sounds like you have 2 weekends and a 5 days for vacation. Minus your travel time. Do you really want to spend part of taht time in a class room or reading diving materials? Do your class and pool stuff here, get a referal and do your open water dives in Thailand. It's not as easy to find instructors here as SEA but I know a few.

You're also more than welcome to come freeze your ass off with me any weekend you want this fall and coming winter. I'll still be in the water. Always looking for new buddies.
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