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thepeel
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I wasn't suggesting that you were. I was suggesting that you do. |
That I do what? Dig PB? I hardly know anything bout him. We don't share any opinions, should that list represent him well. Typically, American conservatives are slightly above obedient muslims on my "people I dislike" scale. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I read one of PB's books and while he is a little nutty on some issues, on other issues he isn't that far off. It's too bad he wasn't more critical of Bush 7 1/2 years ago. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
Ah, another Christopher Hitchens fan!
Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield (and Perle, Wolfowitz (sp), Frum) should all face the noose. How many children have those bas.tards killed? |
How many lives did US policy in Iraq save?
Saddam had it to conquer Kuwait and kill off the Kurds. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thepeel wrote: |
Ah, another Christopher Hitchens fan!
Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield (and Perle, Wolfowitz (sp), Frum) should all face the noose. How many children have those bas.tards killed? |
How many lives did US policy in Iraq save?
Saddam had it to conquer Kuwait and kill off the Kurds. |
Yeah, so they killed some kids to save some kids. Good for them. The war was illegal and war crimes have been committed. |
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Berghoff
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thepeel wrote: |
Ah, another Christopher Hitchens fan!
Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield (and Perle, Wolfowitz (sp), Frum) should all face the noose. How many children have those bas.tards killed? |
How many lives did US policy in Iraq save?
Saddam had it to conquer Kuwait and kill off the Kurds. |
So the US invaded 10, 15 years later? When Saddam was tightly controlled and monitored? Saddam wasn't engaged in mass killings when the US entered to "save" lives. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Berghoff wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thepeel wrote: |
Ah, another Christopher Hitchens fan!
Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield (and Perle, Wolfowitz (sp), Frum) should all face the noose. How many children have those bas.tards killed? |
How many lives did US policy in Iraq save?
Saddam had it to conquer Kuwait and kill off the Kurds. |
So the US invaded 10, 15 years later? When Saddam was tightly controlled and monitored? Saddam wasn't engaged in mass killings when the US entered to "save" lives. |
The US could not contain Saddam and pressure Saudi Arabia on Al Qaeda.
IF the US did not contain Saddam then Saddam would kill the Kurds and invade Kuwait again.
Remember it was the US who was containing Saddam not the UN in fact most countires in the world wanted to see Saddam go free. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: |
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So we went into Iraq to save Kurds???
How stupid do you think people are, Joo?
If we were concerned with saving Kurdish lives, we'd be invading Turkey.
As it is, the welfare of the Kurds is not a matter that concerns U.S. security -- we gave them up 80 odd years ago. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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no the US didn't not invade Iraq to save Kurds.
But US actions in Iraq saved more lives so they were not immoral
There is no humanitarian argument against the war. There are other reasons for one to be against it, but humanitarian reasons isn't one of them. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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What kind of Orwellian thought are you engaging in?
There are always humanitarian reasons not to go to war. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| But US actions in Iraq saved more lives so they were not immoral. |
What about the one million dead, including 500,000 children, as a result of sanctions during the 11 years before the war? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| But US actions in Iraq saved more lives so they were not immoral |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
What kind of Orwellian thought are you engaging in?
There are always humanitarian reasons not to go to war. |
well that means Saddam would have gotten his way. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| But US actions in Iraq saved more lives so they were not immoral. |
What about the one million dead, including 500,000 children, as a result of sanctions during the 11 years before the war? |
Saddam starved his own people.
What would Saddam do if he was allowed to go free? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| But US actions in Iraq saved more lives so they were not immoral |
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Jeff Rense supports Al Qaeda against the US.
That was is okay with Jeff Rense and his supporters. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| dogbert wrote: |
What kind of Orwellian thought are you engaging in?
There are always humanitarian reasons not to go to war. |
well that means Saddam would have gotten his way. |
Can you imagine a different way?
Assassinating him? Engineering a coup against him? Arming the Kurds?
Anything that would not have cost American (and countless Iraqi) lives, wasted American money, wasted resources, given us $3.79/gal. gasoline, strengthened Iran, etc?
Show some creativity here. |
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