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"Youths" rioting in Paris, again.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: "Youths" rioting in Paris, again. Reply with quote

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VILLIERS-LE-BEL, France � Rampaging youths threw Molotov cocktails and torched cars in a troubled neighbourhood outside Paris in a second night of street violence Monday after two teenagers on a motorbike were killed in a crash with a police car.

Anger focused on police, with residents claiming that officers left the scene of Sunday's crash without helping the boys, a claim officials cast doubt on, but which the police were investigating.

President Nicolas Sarkozy appealed for calm, while police braced for more problems. With more than 20 police officers injured and two police stations attacked in the first night of rioting Sunday, the violence was a reminder of the tensions that drove weeks of unrest in 2005 in poor neighbourhoods with large minority populations.

Investigators were still trying to piece together what happened in the Sunday afternoon crash in Villiers-le-Bel, a town of public housing blocks that is home to a mix of Arab, black and white residents in the French capital's northern suburbs.

Police officials said the teenagers ignored traffic rules and crashed into the police vehicle, and that the motorbike they were riding was unregistered and thus not authorized for use on French roads. Neither of the boys � ages 15 and 16 � were wearing a helmet as required by law, and the prosecutor's office said the bike was going at maximum speed.

Villiers-le-Bel was on edge Monday for a second night. �The situation is tense, there are a lot of police on the ground to prevent more flare-ups,� said Gaelle James of the Synergie police officers' union.

In Sunday's violence, eight people were arrested and 21 police officers were injured, including the town's police chief, who was beaten in the face after he tried to negotiate with the rioters, police said.

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sojourner1



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this have to do with abolishing the rule where people can't be fired during the 1st 2 years of employment at a job? I believe it is related to money and job problems for 20 something year olds.


I believe it has to do with them being angry over the lack of opportunities for young adults. It did the last time the riots broke out.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, no.

The muslims in these neighborhoods have declared that they are now part of the "community of islam" and the French police have no authority there.
The French state basically agrees with this and has published a list of 751 "sensitive" areas where the police and other arms of the state are no longer in control.

http://i.ville.gouv.fr/divbib/doc/chercherZUS.htm

These latest riots are due to a violation of this quiet agreement between the "youths" (meaning, imams and the drug gangs) and the state. It has nothing to do with economics. The particular cause of these riots are an accident involving French police and muslim kids in the ghettos. An accident. Riots for an accident involving the police. Yeah.

A young non-muslim French journalist was also stabbed to death by a "youth" on the Paris metro near the projects yesterday. The man who killed her had been charged for numerous sexual assaults before, including a rape on the very same metro line, at knife point, several years ago. She (Anne-Lorraine, 23) was trying to resist being raped. I eagerly await the youths from central Paris to start rioting about this.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is much more serious this time. The "youths" are shooting shotguns at the police. 77 cops were injured last night.
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VILLIERS-LE-BEL, FRANCE � Rampaging youths rioted overnight in Paris' suburbs, hurling Molotov cocktails and setting fire to dozens of cars. At least 77 officers were injured and officers were fired at, a senior police union official said Tuesday.

The violence was more intense than during three weeks of rioting in 2005, said the official, Patrice Ribeiro. Police were shot at and are facing �genuine urban guerillas with conventional weapons and hunting weapons,� Mr. Ribeiro said.


Some officers were hit by shotgun pellets, Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie said. She said there were six serious injuries, �people who notably were struck in the face and close to the eyes.�

The riots were triggered by the deaths of two teens killed in a crash with a police patrol car on Sunday in Villiers-le-Bel, a town of public housing blocks home to a mix of Arab, black and white residents in Paris' northern suburbs.


Armed Urban guerrillas. Europe, meet your future.
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Ilsanman



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope the police retaliate with SWAT teams and kill the leaders of these racist gangs.

Another Gwangju. A stain on the history of France. Either way.
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its probably too late for France at this stage.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much for multi-cult. When will people finally understand that while most people are inherently good, a significant proportion of those from diametrically-opposed cultures have no idea or care about the basis of our western civilization?

These people need to stay home. France, and many other countries, really stepped in the shit with this. What the hell were they thinking?

Why they don't start deporting these jerk-offs is beyond me.

Goodbye, France. We hardly knew ya.
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bizrandom



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

long live the revolution!
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This topic reminded me of this:

Causes of the Detroit Riot

The origins of urban unrest in Detroit were rooted in a multitude of political, economic, and social factors including police abuse, lack of affordable housing, urban renewal projects, economic inequality, black militancy, and rapid demographic change.http://www.67riots.rutgers.edu/d_events.htm

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Goodbye, France. We hardly knew ya.


Would you not have said something similar in the wake of Watts, Newark, Detroit, etc in the US in the mid-60's?

Yet 40 years later, there is this thread: Is race dying? http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=106304

I don't see why religious background need be any more permanently an obstacle to integration than race has been.
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Ilsanman



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And France's case is a double whammy. Race and religion.

Races CAN integrate. But Islam has shown an inability to integrate with western cultures. So what do Muhammad and his cloth covered wife do? Go to Europe!!!
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either islam will assimilate to Europe or Europe will assimilate (submit) to islam. If the 751 neighborhoods in France that the state no longer controls are any indication the Europeans are already allowing, quietly and without a fight, territory to be conquered.

Egypt took 500 years to become majority muslim, and is about 91% muslim today. And in Egypt, like Indonesia, Iraq, Palestine and Turkey, the muslims are still in the process of cleansing their country of non-muslim groups.

But the media and those who can read msm with a straight face will ignore recent muslim history and instead agree to lie and push the narrative of "social injustice".
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:

Why they don't start deporting these jerk-offs is beyond me.


1) Because doing so would be "racist" and the left would go nuts and
2) Because the muslims are 13% of the population. It is too late, the numbers are too big.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's comforting to see bigotry is alive and well here on the board. If living abroad is supposed to broaden horizons, it's frightening to think how narrow these minds must have been before the experience.

To borrow a word from Ryst, "Sheesh".
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
It's comforting to see bigotry is alive and well here on the board.


Examples?
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Ilsanman



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly we don't understand Islam well enough, and we're racist for opposing their killing of french police.

thepeel wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
It's comforting to see bigotry is alive and well here on the board.


Examples?
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