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[thepeel]

Tazers should not be banned for citizens but should be banned for pigs.

[adeline]

just like any other weapon, in the wrong hands (and this does include some cops) they can do bad things. I do think that they are better than other weapons in many cases, however. For use on students-sure i would rather not be attacked by the police for attending a rally or asking a speaker one too many questions but i'd rather be tased than shot with real or rubber bullets. Also, at least where i'm from, the cops don't have much to do besides write traffic tickets so when something serious happens they go a bit nuts. when they were called because a man was trying to kill himself with a knife their response was to shoot and kill him even though he wasn't threatening anyone besides himself. sure you can site examples of when cops use weapons unnecessarily but they do need to have them and used them in many cases.

[canuckistan]

I've noticed an awful lot of Taser deaths occur when they're used on individuals who are in an "agitated state". They either are killed outright, or they go to hospital, decline, and die--the latest, a 38-year old man from BC.

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/TopStories/ContentPosting.aspx?feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V2&showbyline=True&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20071124%2fcustody_death_071124

Perhaps the voltage impacts them harder with higher levels of adrenaline in their system. In any case, the use of Tasers should be stopped--too many people have died who otherwise shouldn't.

[igotthisguitar]

B.C. Man Pumelled By Police Dies In Hospital
Canadian Press

VANCOUVER - A B.C. man who was viciously attacked by the RCMP has died, the Mounties announced Saturday.



Robert Knipstrom, 36, died early Saturday in hospital, four days after two officers used pepper spray, a Taser and their batons on the Chilliwack, B.C., resident, who reportedly was "acting erratically" in a Chilliwack rental store.

The case is being treated as an "in-custody" death and B.C.'s Coroner's Office has launched an investigation along with the RCMP.

The Mounties are being "aided" by investigators from the Integrated Homicide Investigative Team, Abbotsford Police, and the Vancouver Island Integrated Major Crime Unit, police said at a news conference Saturday.

MORE ...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/police_custody_death

[igotthisguitar]

Police Knew Of Tasered Man's Psychiatric History
Fri Nov 23, 5:13 PM

By Alison Auld And James Keller, The Canadian Press

HALIFAX - A Nova Scotia man with chronic psychiatric problems that at times fuelled a violent streak should have received special treatment for his illness, rather than being placed in a "correctional" facility ... where he later died, family and mental health experts said Friday.

Howard Hyde, who was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia in his 20s, died Thursday morning in a Halifax-area jail, about 30 hours after he was shot in a struggle with police.

Hyde's widow, Karen Ellet, said she made it clear in a 911 call to police that Hyde suffered from paranoid schizophrenia, was off his medications and was so agitated he assaulted her.

She restated that when four officers showed up at her apartment late Tuesday to arrest him on the domestic dispute charge.

"He should have been taken to some kind of mental hospital to be medicated, to get him stable and get him rehabilitated," she said Friday.

"He just totally collapsed mentally. He was hardly coherent. That's what bothers me the most - he was so defenceless."

Hyde's sister, Joanna Blair, said officers should have treated Hyde with special care since he had a long history of run-ins with police, had been in and out of mental health institutions and feared police.

"I think that he should have been taken to a psychiatric hospital, and then his charge of abuse should have been dealt with when he was in a calmer state," she said from her home in Shelburne, N.S.

Jean Hughes, a professor at Dalhousie University who specializes in psychiatric nursing, said police officers need specific training on how to approach people with mental-health conditions to ensure such encounters don't turn violent.

She said mental-health patients who are paranoid can become afraid very easily, especially if they have had violent encounters with police in the past.

Hyde was tasered by police during an arrest in 2005.

MORE ...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/071123/national/ns_taser_review_15

[igotthisguitar]

[igotthisguitar]

Here Come The Taser Saucers
UN declares stun guns to be instruments of torture while Taser rep says "it's not real pain"
and puts drone craft into development.

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Monday, Nov 26, 2007

One of the biggest Taser representatives outside the US base has declared the company's intention to produce and sell internationally a small airborne drone version of the weapon that can administer electrical jolts of 50,000 volts.



Antoine di Zazzo has told the AFP that his French company is "developing a mini-flying saucer like drone which could also fire Taser stun rounds on criminal suspects or rioting crowds. He expects it to be launched next year and to be sold internationally by Taser."

CONT'D ...

http://infowars.net/articles/november2007/261107Taser_Saucer.htm

[thepeel]

In the case of the man at the Van airport, the RCMP officer asked, before even addressing the dude, "can I taze him". Clearly, we have tazers being used as a substitute of police work. Sure, I'm being naive, but I don't see the job of the police as a paramilitary force that does little more than enforce order via violence. They should have at least tried to calm the guy down.

An anecdote. I was on rowdy Whyte Ave in Edmonton 2 years back. My buddy, who was drunk, got lippy to some cop that was being lippy to a homeless kid in front of the Funky Pickle Pizza. The cop smacked my buddy in the neck with his club and arrested him for "disorderly conduct". A complaint was launched and the pig cleared of wrongdoing. Those of you who know Edmonton know that the EPS is hardly a stranger to such events. The cop, rightly, felt that he could use violence without any regard to any consequence.

I believe that the type of person who becomes a cop is the exact type that is likely to abuse power. It is for this reason that the police must be almost as limited in their ability to use force as are citizens. I see no need for Canadian police to carry pepper spray, tazers or guns outside of the most notorious neighborhoods.

[cbclark4]

[cbclark4]

Lawyer Targets Taser Policies With 10 Lawsuits

Lawyer: Police Agencies' Policies Allow For Overuse Of Tasers

POSTED: 4:51 pm EST November 19, 2004
UPDATED: 5:43 pm EST November 19, 2004

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A local attorney is filing a series of lawsuits against law
enforcement agencies over Tasers.

It's the biggest legal challenge to date against the controversial police
weapon, WESH NewsChannel 2 reported.

An Orlando attorney is going to file 10 lawsuits on behalf of people
who've been hit with Tasers. The lawsuits will target five local law
enforcement agencies, including the Orlando Police Department, the
Orange County Sheriff's Department, the Osceola County Sheriff's
Department, the Melbourne Police Department and the Apopka Police
Department.

The lawyer said local police agencies' policies allowed for the overuse of
Tasers by officers. He argues that his clients have suffered permanent
physical and psychological injuries because of the excessive force.

On Oct. 2, while Apopka police say John Henderson was resisting arrest
with violence, he was hit repeatedly with a police Taser. As a result,
Henderson says he walks with a limp, has numbness in his fingers and
memory loss. He denies resisting arrest.

Henderson is one of 10 plaintiffs, ranging in age from 14 to 60, who are
planning to sue five Central Florida departments for misuse of the police
Taser.


http://www.wesh.com/news/3934647/detail.html

[cbclark4]

Tasered for Walking, is this guy resisting violently ?

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&tab=s2&vid=20e21c15-e0a2-46d7-bf18-74dfc2e62b2c&playlist=videoByTag:tag:most%20watched%20news:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cat:mk:us:sd:-1:sf:HourlyCount:vs:0&from=MSNHP&gt1=10547

[cbclark4]

How to train cops

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/126127/how_to_use_a_taser/

[igotthisguitar]

Tasers: The Next Generation
December 4, 2007

Consisting of stackable arrays of six �darts,� Taser�s Shockwave technology � which will likely go to market next year
� will be used for military applications, says a company spokesperson, �not for a riot in Toronto.�

Alarmed by recent incidents? Wait�ll you see what the company is planning for 2008

Toronto Star | Dec 02, 2007
by Andrew Chung

The Taser is going wireless.

Until now, the electric-shock gun consisted of two barbed darts attached to wires that shoot out and strike the victim, immobilizing the person with 50,000 volts of electricity, causing severe pain and intense muscle contraction.

But the wires could only extend a few metres. With the new �extended range electronic projectile,� or XREP, the Taser has been turned into a kind of self-contained shotgun shell and can be fired, wire-free, from a standard shotgun, which police typically have in their arsenal already.

The first electrode hooks on to the target, the second electrode falls and makes contact elsewhere on the body, completing the circuit and activating the shock. It can blast someone as far as 30 metres away, and, unlike the current stun guns, whose shock lasts five seconds, the XREP lasts 20 seconds, enough time to �take the offender into custody without risking injury to officers.�

Taser International spokesperson Steve Tuttle says the XREP would be perfect in a standoff. �Here�s someone you just don�t want to get anywhere near,� he says.

The XREP is one of two major new applications the Scottsdale, Ariz., company is preparing to field test, a prospect that makes Taser�s critics anxious. They say more study is needed of the old products, let alone the new.

Tasers are sparking all sorts of questions and concerns these days.

Like death after Tasing. Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski died after the RCMP Tased him when he�d become agitated after spending 10 hours inside the secure area at the Vancouver airport.

Or questionable Tasing. University of Florida student Andrew Meyer was Tased even though a handful of officers had already piled on top of him after he refused to stop asking former presidential candidate John Kerry questions at the microphone. (He�s the one who uttered that now infamous plea that has spawned bumper stickers and T-shirts: �Don�t Tase me, bro!�)

Tasers are now used by more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies in 44 countries. There are more than 428,000 Tasers in the field, not to mention the tens of thousands of Tasers that have been sold to civilians.

And the "innovations" keep coming.

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http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/12/04/tasers-the-next-generation/

[The_Conservative]

[igotthisguitar]

Handcuffed Woman Tased in Police Station
TruthNews | December 3, 2007
Kurt Nimmo

It should be obvious by now that cops and tasers do not go together. It appears far too many cops use the devices to electrocute people simply because they refuse to cooperate, not because they pose a threat to the officers.

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http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/tasers_handcuffed_woman_tasered_in_police_station.htm