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GoldMember
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 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: Discount Airline comes to Korea |
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All around Asia, there are a plethora of discount airlines, such as JetStar, Tiger Air, and Air Asia. These airlines fly to virtually every country in Asia, EXCEPT Korea.
So now at last a discount airline is coming to Korea. Is it an evil foreign airline such as JetStar, Tiger Air, or Air Asia. Of course not!, this new airline is being started by Korean Air.
The media often portray Korean companies as the best in the world, so why they need to be protected from foreign competition.
What's the bet the so called discount will be minimal.
Where are the evil foreign discount airlines?. Other airlines can compete with them, why can't Korean Air or Asiana.
Korean business! Pathetic, protected, and gutless. |
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CeleryMan
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Skymiles baby, skymiles ... |
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kingpin
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Jeju Air and Hansung Airlines are two budget Korean carriers that will start international service soon.
Skystar of Thailand and Asian Spirit of the Philippines offer flights to and from Korea. I also know that a few Chinese cheap carriers do the same. |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Whatever. Hansung can hardly afford to keep their two aircraft aloft. Jeju Air would be foolish to go 'international'. They've got a good thing going already. |
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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Koreatown
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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"New regulation"? Hmmm...sounds like Asiana just sent a big envelope to the transportation minister. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| whatever wrote: |
| Whatever. Hansung can hardly afford to keep their two aircraft aloft. Jeju Air would be foolish to go 'international'. They've got a good thing going already. |
So, you like an expert on the industry or something? I think not. |
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Woden
Joined: 08 Mar 2007
Location: Eurasia
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articulate_ink
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Location: Left Korea in 2008. Hong Kong now.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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This is interesting. I'm not terribly surprised by the last-minute protectionist license requirement.
Korea is underserved by budget carriers. I haven't heard much about Jeju Air, but Hansung can barely keep its planes flying. Cebu Pacific of the Philippines flies to both Seoul and Busan, but the flights operate on a charter basis, can't be booked on the airline's website, and aren't cheap. Lame.
In addition to Korean Air's now-stalled startup, a few others have been preparing to serve the Korean market. Tiger Airways, which operates in Australia and SE Asia, has been planning a joint venture here in partnership with the Incheon city government. Air Asia X has announced plans to fly from Kuala Lumpur to Busan, Cheongju, and one other unspecified city. This will happen as the airline begins taking delivery of the planes it has ordered. Air Asia is also expanding its route network to the north, with service to Hong Kong and more mainland Chinese cities coming soon. This would put them within the 4-5 hour radius needed to serve Korea, so it's only a matter of time.
The forums on airliners.net are a great source of news on all things aviation-related. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/11/119_791.html
smells like some protectionism going on... |
That news is from back in March. And no, it's not new. The law has been on the books for quite some time. Since probably 2002 or so at least.
It's there so that ragtag airlines aren't started up to make serious cash before they know how to even run a business and take care of planes. They want the airlines to sort themselves out before flying overseas.
Imagine the shit that would hit the fan if a budget Korean airline crashed and lots of people died because they were a fly-by-night POS company.
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
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| Whatever. Hansung can hardly afford to keep their two aircraft aloft. Jeju Air would be foolish to go 'international'. They've got a good thing going already. |
So, you like an expert on the industry or something? I think not. |
Sorry, was that English?
In all likelihood, yes I am...especially compared to you. I've flown both airlines numerous times and my girlfriend is an employee in Jeju Air's corporate office.
Jeju Air has a good thing going as is. Where would they fly internationally? Japan? There are already daily flights direct from Japan to Jeju. Japanese prefer to fly Japanese airlines. It's a successful niche airline. Leave it at that.
Hansung regularly has to cancel flights due to not having enough customers. They only have a few flights a day on two routes, with only three aircraft. They had a much-publicized accident some time ago that scared many customers away. The company hardly makes a profit. Doesn't seem like a great candidate for an international carrier, does it? Not only that, the aircraft that they have (ATR 72-200's, if I'm not mistaken) aren't suitably large enough for international travel. Not even to Fukuoka. They should just be glad that they're still in business. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| whatever wrote: |
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| whatever wrote: |
| Whatever. Hansung can hardly afford to keep their two aircraft aloft. Jeju Air would be foolish to go 'international'. They've got a good thing going already. |
So, you like an expert on the industry or something? I think not. |
Sorry, was that English?
In all likelihood, yes I am...especially compared to you. I've flown both airlines numerous times and my girlfriend is an employee in Jeju Air's corporate office.
Jeju Air has a good thing going as is. Where would they fly internationally? Japan? There are already daily flights direct from Japan to Jeju. Japanese prefer to fly Japanese airlines. It's a successful niche airline. Leave it at that.
Hansung regularly has to cancel flights due to not having enough customers. They only have a few flights a day on two routes, with only three aircraft. They had a much-publicized accident some time ago that scared many customers away. The company hardly makes a profit. Doesn't seem like a great candidate for an international carrier, does it? Not only that, the aircraft that they have (ATR 72-200's, if I'm not mistaken) aren't suitably large enough for international travel. Not even to Fukuoka. They should just be glad that they're still in business. |
Given your previous answer, I thought you were one of those who just says "X is bad because I said so," but well, maybe you do know a bit after all.
I wouldn't give up on the budget carriers, though. Jeju Air could offer flights not originating in Jeju, and well, they are ready to go according to news reports. I admit I know little or nothing about Hansung, perhaps it'll be taken over by another company that will turn Hansung around. Korean companies have the ability to surprise, believe it or not.
One unfortunate fact remains, however: ticket prices are still high. |
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CeleryMan
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:59 am Post subject: |
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In principal monopolizing routes in/out of Incheon sucks for the average consumer but eliminating competition cause you simply can is a beautiful thing.
It is what is ... |
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