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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: What is going on here.... |
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| It has been mentioned that Korean women will sometimes not get on an elevator if some weagukin dude is there. I have also noticed that on a bus, the seat next to me is always the last filled, and if a group of Korean women get on they would rather stand than be seen in existence with me by occupying the seat adjacent to mine. I also get this at the small restaurant outside my school's front gate. If the restaurant is busy and a group of co-eds come in and the only table open is one next to me, they will leave and find refreshments elsewhere. Can you think of any other cases? What is with their socialization process that prevents them from acting like mature grown up people? |
Time to hit the showers and have someone back home ship over some deodorant. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Its worrying that a whole nation sees foreigners as a separate species, but it'll take years before Seoul is anywhere near as cosmopolitan as New York or London. |
Yesterday my wife and I were at the local Lotte Mart. She and the baby headed to the baby goods section, while I went upstairs to get computer paper. At the baby care place, all the clerks (who didn't know about me) gathered around and fauned all over the two-week-old. Suddenly one woman offered an interesting comment:
"She looks just like a foreign baby!"
Seconds later, I walked in. They all went, "ohhh." She *is* a foreign baby.
Anyway, we laughed about it. The woman meant it as a compliment - pale skin, big eyes... Anyway, she will NEVER EVER be considered a Korean. That's pretty much obvious. |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyway, we laughed about it. The woman meant it as a compliment - pale skin, big eyes... Anyway, she will NEVER EVER be considered a Korean. That's pretty much obvious. |
It will happen someday though. People never believed that S. Africa would ever 'recover' from apartheid and it basically happened overnight.
The more Koreans that see 'foreign' babies the better. You are one of the first steps to an improved place maybe? |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I have no problem having the male population of Korea beating a path to sit next me, trust me, many a korean male has broken some dream like thoughts by joining me for the ride, but the it is the 20-25 age group of Korean women who would rather be running down the street than be sitting next to me on a bus. I even have seen many times women change sides of the street so they wont have to walk passed me. Man I don't understand, even after so many years here. I really am not some strange odious ogre or something. |
Hmm maybe men got "gaydar" and thing something's up with you?
Or maybe you ain't a pretty boy and so the chicks are scared of you.
Jez, now I am kinda scared 
| The Lemon wrote: |
| rapier wrote: |
| Its worrying that a whole nation sees foreigners as a separate species, but it'll take years before Seoul is anywhere near as cosmopolitan as New York or London. |
Yesterday my wife and I were at the local Lotte Mart. She and the baby headed to the baby goods section, while I went upstairs to get computer paper. At the baby care place, all the clerks (who didn't know about me) gathered around and fauned all over the two-week-old. Suddenly one woman offered an interesting comment:
"She looks just like a foreign baby!"
Seconds later, I walked in. They all went, "ohhh." She *is* a foreign baby.
Anyway, we laughed about it. The woman meant it as a compliment - pale skin, big eyes... Anyway, she will NEVER EVER be considered a Korean. That's pretty much obvious. |
Is that a bad thing? IMO if it is a girl (i have a little baby girl) then Koreans see them more as exotic and they will have a good chance at fitting in. It is usually the boys that have a rough time of it socially - but then it all depends on how foreign the kids look.
There are a couple mixed korean/foreign talents/singers/actors out there that do alright. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| The more Koreans that see 'foreign' babies the better. You are one of the first steps to an improved place maybe? |
The Korean phrase I'd like to learn and use on the sneering adjoshis (this really doesn't happen often - most people are really positive) is, "we're polluting the bloodline". I mentioned this to my colleagues, and they suggested "we're *improving* the bloodline". Heh. Anyway, my wife won't teach this to me, so I'll have to just think it loudly to myself.
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| IMO if it is a girl (i have a little baby girl) then Koreans see them more as exotic and they will have a good chance at fitting in. It is usually the boys that have a rough time of it socially - but then it all depends on how foreign the kids look. |
Precisely why we were hoping for a girl. Well put. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| The Lemon wrote: |
| buddy bradley wrote: |
| The more Koreans that see 'foreign' babies the better. You are one of the first steps to an improved place maybe? |
The Korean phrase I'd like to learn and use on the sneering adjoshis (this really doesn't happen often - most people are really positive) is, "we're polluting the bloodline". I mentioned this to my colleagues, and they suggested "we're *improving* the bloodline". Heh. Anyway, my wife won't teach this to me, so I'll have to just think it loudly to myself. |
You know you have been in Korea long enough when you see a lot of people that "look the same". I don't think it's a racist expression either. I can swear some of the students I teach have a lot of the same characteristics with another student I may have taught in the past. I often have to check if they are related - as I feel that sure of it.
So I think the bloodline is getting pretty stretched in some areas. Having a little variety just makes for a stronger bloodline IMO. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Having a little variety just makes for a stronger bloodline IMO. |
i don't think that's your opinion at all. i can't be bothered to look this up, but i was of the understanding that this is generally accepted in the scientific non-nazi community as fact. |
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Joe Thanks
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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You know you have been in Korea long enough when you see a lot of people that "look the same". I don't think it's a racist expression either. I can swear some of the students I teach have a lot of the same characteristics with another student I may have taught in the past. I often have to check if they are related - as I feel that sure of it.
So I think the bloodline is getting pretty stretched in some areas. Having a little variety just makes for a stronger bloodline IMO. |
Emphasis on "pure blood" is a common thing amongst eugenic-embracing animal breeders and nazis.
Regardless, mixing up the gene pool is good.
Just say "moo shee kan saram" to the sneering Adjoshii. I don't want to help the Lemon but his kid deserves a better world, so I'll take the hit for hit team and help him.
It's basically saying "uncultured person," which is what that kind of person is - to a "t"
Mr. Pink - you're not being racist. When there's been a small gene pool that mixes for hundreds upon hundreds of years in the ether of homogeneity - the faimly tree's branches will start to resemble a trunk, so to speak.
I remember my Japanese ex telling me that there were "face" types of Japanese faces. She went into great detail but it was way too much to absorb.
In Korea I think there are a handful of facial characteristics that are promnent - and then the stepford wive fashion thing among women (men - we're hopeless world wide) - and then it's amplified because you're in small territory.
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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I'd say everyone's face is a variation (to different degrees) on a few dozen prototypes. Explains how each of us has a celebrity lookalike, or why people will swear you have a twin in Philadelphia or London or wherever. Strangers sometimes seem uncannily familiar -- the old line in a bar 'Havent I met you somewhere before?' can express a legitimate feeling.
I dont think this is limited within races either. Eye & hair differences aside, I've met Koreans who resemble acquaintances back in Canada & vice versa. |
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ratslash
Joined: 08 May 2003
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| my girlfriend, who is shy, wont' sit next to me if we are in a coffee place or somewhere else, always across from me. she doesn't want to be seen as being a couple in public. if male and female are sitting next to each other in korea, they are officially a couple. how stupid is that? |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| my girlfriend, who is shy, wont' sit next to me if we are in a coffee place or somewhere else, always across from me. she doesn't want to be seen as being a couple in public. |
ratlash that is something that would get to me after a while. I know Korean ettiquate but if she doesn't want to be seen with you as a couple(which you are) then that would be sending out the alarm bells to me. i'm sure you are a top guy(judging from your sport of choice  ) but I would be sitting down and having a heart to heart about what her intentions might be and how long she would do this to you. |
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ratslash
Joined: 08 May 2003
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nah, just because, you mis-understand.
we are hopelessly in love with each other, coming up to a year anniversary soon. it is just that she is so shy it is cute! we don't hold hands in public either, no public affection at all. but, even today, when we got in a lift (elevator) we were all over each other til we reached our floor. and then it was back to normal. it was hard at first, no public affection i mean, but i've got used to it. she has read all those horrible tales about korean girls when seen with a western male, being called a slag or *beep*, so that has put her off public affection. |
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| Weatherman: The bus syndrome happens to me on my way into Seoul. Once on the subway (or anywhere else in Seoul) it's gone. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| she has read all those horrible tales about korean girls when seen with a western male, being called a slag or *beep*, so that has put her off public affection |
Yeah i would imagine that could put some girls off. I'm an affectionate guy however. i want to hold hands and cuddle my g/f in public. its part of the fun.  |
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Ody
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I'd say everyone's face is a variation (to different degrees) on a few dozen prototypes. Explains how each of us has a celebrity lookalike, or why people will swear you have a twin in Philadelphia or London or wherever. Strangers sometimes seem uncannily familiar -- the old line in a bar 'Havent I met you somewhere before?' can express a legitimate feeling.
I dont think this is limited within races either. Eye & hair differences aside, I've met Koreans who resemble acquaintances back in Canada & vice versa. |
i too have run into koreans who are ringers for people (of European decent) whom i have known back home in the states.
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