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stevemcgarrett
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 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: WHY DON'T LEFTISTS HERE RALLY BEHIND SENOR HUGO CHAVEZ? |
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Just why is it that the Far Left posters on this forum haven't launched any threads about Chavez in recent months? Could it be they're distancing themselves from the Presidente of Venezuela? Or are they conveniently overlooking his--er--rather extensive character flaws?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Chavez, butt buddy of both Castro and Ahmadine-jihad-an, is at it yet again, this time denouncing a fellow Latino in his own backyard:
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Chavez cuts off contacts with Colombia
By JORGE RUEDA, Associated Press Writer
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Wednesday he was cutting off all contacts with the Colombian government, but left it unclear whether he was announcing an end to diplomatic relations between the two countries.
Chavez's announcement came after a series of sharp exchanges with President Alvaro Uribe set off when the Colombian leader last week abruptly ended the Venezuelan's mediation between Colombia's government and leftist rebels.
"While President Uribe is president of Colombia I will have no type of relationship with him or with the government in Colombia," Chavez said.
Speaking in the southwestern state of Tachira, Chavez said he will not have any relationship with a "president who is capable of such barefaced lies, disrespects another president that he has called a friend, one that he called on for help."
The Venezuelan president had a similar spat in late 2005 with then Mexican President Vicente Fox. While relations between Mexico and Venezuela were reduced to lower-level diplomats, ties were not formally severed.
Uribe's 4-year term is scheduled to run into 2010, although some of his supporters are urging him to change the constitution and run for a third term.
Uribe appeared to try to calm the dispute with Chavez earlier Wednesday, saying that presidents should put aside their "angers" and "vanities" to get on with their work.
Chavez recalled his ambassador to Colombia on Tuesday. Colombian Foreign Minister Fernando Araujo vowed then not to call back Colombia's ambassador in Caracas, insisting his government's dispute is not with Venezuela, but with the leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia.
The Andean neighbors share a 1,380-mile border and $5 billion in trade last year, maintaining friendly relations despite sharp ideological differences � until now.
Uribe, Washington's closest ally in South America, removed Chavez and a Colombian senator from talks with the FARC rebels a week ago, saying the Venezuelan leader had violated the conditions of his involvement by speaking directly to the head of Colombia's army.
Chavez on Sunday said he was putting relations with Colombia "in the freezer," calling Uribe a "liar" and accusing him of "not wanting peace."
Uribe replied hours later by charging Chavez with pushing an "expansionist project" across Latin America and saying the Venezuelan seemed to want Colombia to fall "victim to a terrorist FARC government."
He also said Chavez was resorting to the "old trick" of stoking hatred of Colombia within Venezuela to reap the electoral benefit. Chavez is campaigning for a national referendum Sunday on proposals that would, among other proposals, extend presidential terms and end term limits.
Uribe had invited Chavez in August to help broker a deal with the FARC guerrillas, who are sympathetic to the Venezuelan leader's socialist ideals.
The rebels are holding 46 high-profile hostages, including three American defense contractors and French-Colombian politician Ingrid Betancourt. It is offering to release the prisoners in exchange for the freeing of all imprisoned rebels. |
Hugo's latest tantrum appears to be calculated to permit him a free hand in his dealings with FARC in the future, i.e., now he can resort to subterfuge to get what he really wants, which is of course the export of his imagined socialist revolution.
Uribe is twice the man and has thrice the intellect of Chavez, but putting that aside, isn't it amusing in a pathetic sort of way how anyone who resists Hugo's machinations is immediately branded a liar. Then El Presidente proceeds to demonize the forsaken world leader of the moment. He's beginning to appear like a bandito in a bad Western movie of the 1950s. The irony is that he thinks he's the wave of the future.
So what should be done with Mr. Chavez? We know he wants to be dictator of his country and assume the mantle of revolution from Castro. Should the OAS let these antics run their course? Although I'd personally like to see him get a bullet to the head by one of his fellow citizens, I say he should be ostracized diplomatically in much the same manner as the Glorious Leader to our north.
What say you? And now what do you make of your darling Leftist leader, Mr. Jones? |
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keane
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| Lonely being a troll nobody pays attention to? |
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Ilsanman
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| It's just lonely being Steve. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: |
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| It's just lonely being Steve. |
He reminds me of Ignatius Reilly. Always has.
Anyhow, I believe that people should give given what they want. The Venezuelans want economic disaster and a death to democracy and I say let'm have it. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| Just why is it that the Far Left posters on this forum |
Possibly for the same reason you stopped rallying to the defense of your buddy Adolf. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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| Just why is it that the Far Left posters on this forum |
Possibly for the same reason you stopped rallying to the defense of your buddy Adolf. |
ROFL!  |
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stevemcgarrett
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Grammatically-challenged Ilsanman supposed:
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So you concur with my sentiments. Guess as much was the case.
Have fun this weekend at the party of wannabe revolutionaries. Don't forget your Che Guevara berets. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:04 am Post subject: Re: WHY DON'T LEFTISTS HERE RALLY BEHIND SENOR HUGO CHAVEZ? |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Just why is it that the Far Left posters on this forum haven't launched any threads about Chavez in recent months? Could it be they're distancing themselves from the Presidente of Venezuela? Or are they conveniently overlooking his--er--rather extensive character flaws?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Because there is no such thing as a coalition of leftists.
Sorry to break it to you brudah, but people don't really fit into your narrow and simple viewpoint of the world like that.
Dumbass! |
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Ilsanman
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Did you quote that as me? Keane may disagree. Who here is challenged upstairs?
Steve, I love arguing with you. You try to say something to me, but I don't even need to reply. You seem to prefer making an ass of yourself.
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Grammatically-challenged Ilsanman supposed:
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So you concur with my sentiments. Guess as much was the case.
Have fun this weekend at the party of wannabe revolutionaries. Don't forget your Che Guevara berets. |
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Funkdafied
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| Who's a "leftist" anyway? I'm a liberal, and I know most of the posters here who are not of the conservative persuasion also identify with the title, and the rest seem to be this newly emerging breed, libertarians ( I think they have some good ideas ). I don't think there is more than three posters on here who could rightfully be called leftist. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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I don't think there is more than three posters on here who could rightfully be called leftist.
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If you are expecting subtlety of thought from the right wing crowd on here, you have come to the wrong place. It is beyond them. The most amusing are the ones who grew up swallowing everything Ronnie Reagan said and now preach about how people should be skeptical.  |
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blade
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Anyhow, I believe that people should give given what they want. The Venezuelans want economic disaster and a death to democracy and I say let'm have it. |
I don't know if you this or not but Venezuela was not exactly a capitalist paradise before Chavez became president and in fact the lives of the majority of Venezuelans has improved. I know if you were a member of the upper classes in Venezuela why you might have a problem with Chavez in power but the truth of the matter is that despite Chavez's many flaws he is still in my opinion a force for good in Venezuela and maybe in Columbia if they can quicken the political demise of that b%$tard Uribe, who for some strange reason seems to attract very little criticism from the west despite his major democratic shortcomings. |
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stevemcgarrett
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:54 am Post subject: |
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blade wishfully expressed:
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| Chavez in power but the truth of the matter is that despite Chavez's many flaws he is still in my opinion a force for good in Venezuela |
We should take bets on when you'll be eating these words. Chavez will be a dictator before long, mark my words, unless Venezuelans rise up. This is not just a class issue anymore.
Uribe is the only political leader in Columbia in a position of power with any spine to fight FARC. Surely you don't condone the latter's activities? |
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endo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| So buy your simplistic logic Stevie, since all leftists must support Chavez, then am I to asume that you are a fervent support of the beautiful conservative regime ruled by the House of Saud? |
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blade
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
blade wishfully expressed:
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| Chavez in power but the truth of the matter is that despite Chavez's many flaws he is still in my opinion a force for good in Venezuela |
We should take bets on when you'll be eating these words. Chavez will be a dictator before long, mark my words, unless Venezuelans rise up. This is not just a class issue anymore.
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You might be right about Chavez who knows what the future holds I don't have a crystal ball do you? But I don't really see how he will be any worse than what went before him, can you?
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Uribe is the only political leader in Columbia in a position of power with any spine to fight FARC. Surely you don't condone the latter's activities? |
Uribe is a right wing moron with far too many connections to right-wing paramilitaries to trusted to Columbia's long term prospects. I'm sorry that your political outlook is coloured that you can't see the proverbial wood from the trees. |
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