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Wurmwood
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: How will this effect my relationship options? |
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I`m thinking of having a vasectomy. I just don`t think I want kids. My question is the title of the thread. What percentage of Korean women are going to be okay with the fact that I don`t want kids? How many of them will even evaluate me in terms of a long-term relationship? Bare in mind that I recently turned 30, so I think the pressure to have kids is only going to get stronger from here on out. Is it true that there`s more family pressure to have kids for women in asian cultures? |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Which are you more worried about? Becoming a father or not getting laid as often as you want? |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: |
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If you "think" you don't want kids, I wouldnt have a vasectomy, wait till your 100% sure atleast?
Also, I can assume that your not in a serious relationship right now as you would have discussed this issue with your partner rather than throwing it to the floor. So....I'd hold off on getting the snip.
What's the downside? You meet a girl for a one-night stand/fling etc, FFS use a condom!
You find yourself in a serious relationship...Well initially you should be using a damn condom, and after a while - perhaps discuss this issue with your partner - Its either going to be a dealbreaker or it isn't. If it is, well you have the option to change your mind or move on, if it isn't a dealbreaker...then get the snip then.
In response to your actual post... I think it will hurt your chances of a long-term relationship in a big way. Sure you may find someone has the same feeling towards kids... Then again, if you don't, Would you want to have kids that you "don't want" only to keep your partner happy? |
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Wurmwood
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: |
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What`s holding me back is the possibility that I`ll meet someone great and she`ll leave me when she finds out I don`t want kids. No, I don`t wanna have kids just to keep someone. I think the desire to remain child-free is a prerequisite for a long-term relationship for me, but I`m afraid this will leave me with very few options indeed. What am I suppose to do; ask every woman I date if she wants kids at the out-set or wait until the relationship gets that serious and spring it on her? |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Wurmwood wrote: |
What`s holding me back is the possibility that I`ll meet someone great and she`ll leave me when she finds out I don`t want kids. No, I don`t wanna have kids just to keep someone. I think the desire to remain child-free is a prerequisite for a long-term relationship for me, but I`m afraid this will leave me with very few options indeed. What am I suppose to do; ask every woman I date if she wants kids at the out-set or wait until the relationship gets that serious and spring it on her? |
I don't want to have kids. I have let every man I've ever started to seriously date know that. You know what? It hasn't hurt my chances of meeting someone or dating someone. The idea that everyone wants to have kids is outdated.
Now, if you're going to limit yourself to KOREAN women only, yeah, you probably are limiting your pool. I am a polycultural dater. I don't give a shit about someone's race when I'm dating them. A lot of people who join are also not 100% sure of their choice/stance and use the list to help figure it out. Some stick around, others leave and have kids. It's cool.
Oddly, most guys I've gone out with have started kid talk early. (And they think it's always the women...!) Anyway, I just flat say "I don't want children." It's stopped cold a few budding possibly-relationships. But I don't want kids. So obviously they're not great FOR ME.
OP, if you're interested, I know of a good CF (childfree) email list. PM me if you want the details. The list is a good mix of rabid anti-child people to pro-child people who've decided not to have their own to everything in between. A lot of people join the list just to find out how other CFs meet, how to deal with relationships, etc. |
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Wurmwood
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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I`m open to dating non-Korean women. I admit that, like many other male teachers, I`ve got a touch of yellow fever, but it doesn`t ultimately matter. Besides, if Korean women are all bent on having kids, teachers may have to be my main dating pool.
To clarify, I`m not a kid hater; which is good because I`ll be teaching them soon. I just think kids are more fun when they`re someone else`s responsibility. I think the drawbacks of having my own outweigh the benefits. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Wurmwood wrote: |
I`m open to dating non-Korean women. I admit that, like many other male teachers, I`ve got a touch of yellow fever, but it doesn`t ultimately matter. Besides, if Korean women are all bent on having kids, teachers may have to be my main dating pool.
To clarify, I`m not a kid hater; which is good because I`ll be teaching them soon. I just think kids are more fun when they`re someone else`s responsibility. I think the drawbacks of having my own outweigh the benefits. |
I didn't think you were. I wouldn't've gotten my M. Ed. in EARLY Childhood Education if I didn't like kids myself.  |
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Kevtron
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Though it doesn't seem you need more reasons not to have kids...but in case you did:
http://www.vhemt.org/
Also out of curiosity. Are you still out of Korea while thinking of getting the snip done? If not how much does it cost here and is it covered by the most medical here? |
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Wurmwood
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:53 am Post subject: |
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I`m not yet in Korea, but I will be in a week. I`ve looked at other posts about getting a vasectomy there and apparently it`s a relatively simple and inexpensive matter, though I couldn`t give you any specific information about getting it done.
To address another point you brought up earlier, Atavistic, this question is kind of about getting laid in that I`m concerned about being able to find someone to fool around with without the expectation of starting a litter down the line. I`m not saying I`m only interested in casual relationships; I`ll get married if I find the right person. It`s the kids I`d like to avoid.
Btw, I guess I`m interested in this child-free email list you`ve got, but apparently I can`t pm you because I just joined the forum a few weeks ago and you have to post 25 messages before they`ll let you pm anybody. Perhaps you could pm me. Thanx. |
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kimcheechochy
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm tough call. What is more important to you? Not having rugrats or not having a great girl? If it's the "no rugrats" option, you should definitely cut off the flow for your one-eyed purple-headed yogurt slinger. But if you find a great girl, you would probably do anything for her, including breeding.
Condoms are pretty reliable bud, and they come in all kinds of flavors. Not that I have tasted any of those flavors. Ok strawberry is my favorite but I SWEAR I'm not gay (ok just on tuesdays). |
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kimcheechochy
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Wurmwood wrote: |
I`m not yet in Korea, but I will be in a week. |
By the way, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU PLAN ON DOING HERE?? Are you coming here to teach kids and make some money or screw girls???
Korea is not the puzzy paradise you may think it is. If you didn't have a need for vasectomy in your home country, why do you think you need one now? Make sure you are coming here for the right reasons bud. Otherwise, go to Thailand ok? |
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The_Eyeball_Kid

Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, OP - and don't take this the wrong way - having a vasectomy would seem to be the least of your concerns when it comes to what might jeopardize a relationship. Your unsettling weirdness should be a much more pressing issue. |
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Wurmwood
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Take it easy, guys. Just because the question is of a sexual nature doesn`t mean that`s all I`m concerned with. Of course I`m coming there to teach and I realize I`m not going to be fighting women off with a stick the way many newbies think they will, but I also plan on dating and I think my question is a legitimate concern. I`m pretty sure this is a question a lot of guys face when contemplating getting the snip. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Just turn her around. |
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NicRenee

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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kimcheechochy wrote: |
Korea is not the puzzy paradise you may think it is. If you didn't have a need for vasectomy in your home country, why do you think you need one now? Make sure you are coming here for the right reasons bud. Otherwise, go to Thailand ok? |
You really are a winner.
Wurmwood, if you are 100% sure you never want to reproduce, get the vascectomy. In casual relationships would wouldn't have to tell them about it right away anyway, so if you're only interested in sex it shouldn't matter.
As for long-term relationships, you would probably end up unhappy if you're with someone who wanted kids and you didn't, especially if you went ahead and had them!
My boyfriend is also getting a vascectomy, on his own volition. I totally support this and, like Altavistic, have absolutely no desire to ever procreate. I realize this could change later, in which case if we decided to have children, we will adopt. This could be another option for you later on if you changed your mind as well. There are already so many children in the world without loving families.
At any rate, be very sure before you do it!! Yes, they are reversable 70% of them time, but there's still a good chance it couldn't be. Good luck! |
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