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[igotthisguitar]

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[RACETRAITOR]

Looking at some of the crap that's in the Bible, I can't imagine anything that could've been banned from it. Yet I still don't have the patience to watch this.

[igotthisguitar]

[Bibbitybop]

Thanks for posting that. I've read the "Lost" books of the Bible, the ones the church decided weren't fitting, as well as the "Forgotten" books of Eden and other Biblical, but not accepted, accounts in the Bible.

I'll watch this series at a later time.

[Cheonmunka]

Summary:
Constantinople calls all his bishops together at a meeting and they decide, after much argument, that Jesus was divine rather than merely human.

They need a text and one man is chosen to choose, from among many many writings, the books for inclusion into the Bible.

Some examples of what appear in different books.
-Eve alone, yet looking really sexy in some pagan sculptures and paintings, is manipulated to eat the fruit.
-Lillith! The female sorceress - powerful woman.
-Joseph married an Egyptian princess. Is this too 'Hellenic' for a Jewish canon? Answer: Make the stories more palatable for inclusion into the Bible.

Apocropha [sp]: Hidden writings - Greek / Latin translations. A translation of the Hebrew bible but in Egypt. Daniel an investigator and instigator. Dragon killer. Active resistor. Canon decides to include only a short version, Daniel was too 'darn popular' at the time of canonization to do what was really wished - to not include him at all.
The model of Christianity of Jesus's Golden Age incorrect. At time of writing the 'accepted' Bible, there was at the same time on the streets intense competition for converts for each point of view. Each point of view carries own traditions, apostles and books.
So, 'extra-Canonical' acts and books problematic for the bishops and new church.
Thekla [sp] problematic due to her celibacy/chastity.
Celibacy as a choice in the canon, but in acropha texts, a requirement.
Paul's words of celibacy attract many women followers. Thekla protected by female lions when male suitors try to have her killed. Paul doesn't defend her and heads off 'on the road out of town.' Thekla performs many miracles - was this some 'radical feminism?' These acts and books supressed. Thekla's was not a 'proper' role for a woman.
Banned.
Aristocratic married women listening to Peter demanding chastity - at the time this would cull some of the bloodlines of the wealthy barons of Rome. Further, if everyone is to be celibate to be Christian, then there will be few converts to Christianty.
Banned for this reason.
Peter strung up upside down not because he was guilty of betraying Jesus and was committed oppositely to how the Savior died, but possibly because of 'roman sport' or because (again, according to texts) of Peter's own choice of being crucified up side down as meaning he sees things the right way (as one would come out of a womb) and in the opposite way to which the world was seeing it. This speech perhaps too 'unusual' to be included in the canon.

Gnostic texts: Homoerotic Jesus and a young man who sometimes appears at Jesus' side. A clever hoax? A conspiracy? a photographed documented text, but then which goes missing from a museum library.

El Minya document resurfaced in 2000, "Gospel of Judas" - 300 AD.
Judas indentifies Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. But, in this other Gospel of Judas, Jesus calls him aside and says to get the Kindom of Heaven means to 'grieve a great deal.'
Judas will make the highest sacrifice and knowingly kill the man who clothes him and who he loves. He makes the remorseful act of killing his friend.
Motivation for Judas not silver but to help Jesus by releasing him, in Jesus's words, from the Earthly physical realm.

Gnostics eventually silenced or 'wiped out.'
Early church worried by gnostics who were labelled heretics. Many texts buried and hidden and many found just this past century.

In the end, to coin a phrase, one group emerged victorious so declared it has the orthodox point of view. It rewrote history, but says it was always this way.

[mindmetoo]

I thought it kind of funny in that movie "the god that wasn't there" where the guy was interviewing christians about what they know about events after the resurrection. Not a clue.

[Gunther]

What's even worse, is most don't even know who King James was. The last description that was fitting was *Perv* in the most honorable way, where he had his own little boys school to pick and choose from...