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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: Blowback: Europe |
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"The events of Manhattan were retaliation against the American-Israeli alliance's aggression against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, and I am the only one responsible for it. The Afghan people and government knew nothing about it. America knows that,"
Firstly, Chalmers got it wrong: 9-11 was retaliation for support of Israel, not for the Gulf War. OBL says so, therefore it must be true.
Secondly, how asinine are we going to get with this blowback doctrine? Let's try and stretch it to its full stupidity, shall we?
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| Bin Laden said he was the "only one responsible" for the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, saying it was unjust for the United States to have invaded Afghanistan. |
Now, just because OBL says it does not make it false. But damn, where have I heard this before? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ok ok. They hate you for your freedom. Actually, maybe this is why the American government is suspending freedoms for Americans. They figure, shiiiieeett, if they hate us for our freedom, let's go ahead and take away the freedom and BAM. No more terrorism!
Though, if that were the case, why would they not have attacked any of the 20 or so nations that are about as free or more free than America.
Maybe, there were a string of attacks (cole, embassy's, 911) from a bunch of pissed of Saudis because of the infidels in the land of meccah. And maybe the infidel was in the land of mecca to protect oil supplies, which aren't actually theirs to protect. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Fools.
Who is OBL?
Where is OBL?
Is he alive?
Who is chasing him?
Why is he not wanted for the crimes of 9-11?
Why haven't we seen a real video of him in how long?
Why were CIA agents visiting him in the hospital in the summer of 2001?
fools i say.
9-11 was an inside job. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Is there even a single word about Europe in this thread? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Blowback: Europe |
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| Kuros wrote: |
"The events of Manhattan were retaliation against the American-Israeli alliance's aggression against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, and I am the only one responsible for it. The Afghan people and government knew nothing about it. America knows that,"
Firstly, Chalmers got it wrong: 9-11 was retaliation for support of Israel, not for the Gulf War. OBL says so, therefore it must be true.
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Secondly, how asinine are we going to get with this blowback doctrine? Let's try and stretch it to its full stupidity, shall we?
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| Bin Laden said he was the "only one responsible" for the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, saying it was unjust for the United States to have invaded Afghanistan. |
Now, just because OBL says it does not make it false. But damn, where have I heard this before?
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1) 9/11, from the horses mouth, was an attempt to push the infidel from the land of meccah. The war in Iraq was what gave rise to the infidel being there, but not the cause of the terrorist attacks. The attacks were due to the American military being in Saudi.
Bin Laden has since changed his story to better appeal to international leftists and the jihadi jetset. Now it is about Israel, but it wasn't then.
2) What? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Blowback: Europe |
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| thepeel wrote: |
1) 9/11, from the horses mouth, was an attempt to push the infidel from the land of meccah. The war in Iraq was what gave rise to the infidel being there, but not the cause of the terrorist attacks. The attacks were due to the American military being in Saudi.
Bin Laden has since changed his story to better appeal to international leftists and the jihadi jetset. Now it is about Israel, but it wasn't then. |
'The attacks were due to the American military being in Saudi?'
So "but for" America's presence in Saudi Arabia in 1991-2, there would not have been an attack on the WTC in 2001?
Now tie this back to Europe. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Bin Laden has since changed his story to better appeal to international leftists and the jihadi jetset. Now it is about Israel, but it wasn't then.
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I agree that he changed his story to appear more left-wing, also throwing in stuff about the Kyoto accord and quoting Fahrenheit 9/11 etc. But I think his ultimate purpose there was not to get leftists on his side, since his operation doesn't really require the support of international leftists to function.
Rather, I think his aim was to portray himself as being allied with liberals and the left, thus swinging more support to Bush, who is the best thing ever to happen to Al Qaeda. This strategy was especially evident in the communique that AQ released a few days before the 2004 election. |
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