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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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 Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: The "Black KKK" responsible for Taylor's death |
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Curious as to what others' take is on this article.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7499442?MSNHPHCP>1=10637
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Taylor's death a grim reminder for us all
Jason Whitlock
FOXSports.com, Updated 56 minutes ago
There's a reason I call them the Black KKK. The pain, the fear and the destruction are all the same.
Someone who loved Sean Taylor is crying right now. The life they knew has been destroyed, an 18-month-old baby lost her father, and, if you're a black man living in America, you've been reminded once again that your life is in constant jeopardy of violent death.
The Black KKK claimed another victim, a high-profile professional football player with a checkered past this time.
No, we don't know for certain the circumstances surrounding Taylor's death. I could very well be proven wrong for engaging in this sort of aggressive speculation. But it's no different than if you saw a fat man fall to the ground clutching his chest. You'd assume a heart attack, and you'd know, no matter the cause, the man needed to lose weight.
Well, when shots are fired and a black man hits the pavement, there's every statistical reason to believe another black man pulled the trigger. That's not some negative, unfair stereotype. It's a reality we've been living with, tolerating and rationalizing for far too long.
When the traditional, white KKK lynched, terrorized and intimidated black folks at a slower rate than its modern-day dark-skinned replacement, at least we had the good sense to be outraged and in no mood to contemplate rationalizations or be fooled by distractions.
Our new millennium strategy is to pray the Black KKK goes away or ignores us. How's that working?
About as well as the attempt to shift attention away from this uniquely African-American crisis by focusing on an alleged injustice the white media allegedly perpetrated against Sean Taylor.
Within hours of his death, there was a story circulating that members of the black press were complaining that news outlets were disrespecting Taylor's victimhood by reporting on his troubled past
No disrespect to Taylor, but he controlled the way he would be remembered by the way he lived. His immature, undisciplined behavior with his employer, his run-ins with law enforcement, which included allegedly threatening a man with a loaded gun, and the fact a vehicle he owned was once sprayed with bullets are all pertinent details when you've been murdered.
Marcellus Wiley, a former NFL player, made the radio circuit Wednesday, singing the tune that athletes are targets. That was his explanation for the murders of Taylor and Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams and the armed robberies of NBA players Antoine Walker and Eddy Curry.
Really?
Let's cut through the bull(manure) and deal with reality. Black men are targets of black men. Period. Go check the coroner's office and talk with a police detective. These bullets aren't checking W-2s.
Rather than whine about white folks' insensitivity or reserve a special place of sorrow for rich athletes, we'd be better served mustering the kind of outrage and courage it took in the 1950s and 1960s to stop the white KKK from hanging black men from trees.
But we don't want to deal with ourselves. We take great joy in prescribing medicine to cure the hate in other people's hearts. Meanwhile, our self-hatred, on full display for the world to see, remains untreated, undiagnosed and unrepentant.
Our self-hatred has been set to music and reinforced by a pervasive culture that promotes a crab-in-barrel mentality.
You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration.
Of course there are other catalysts, but until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it's not OK to "super man dat ho" and end any and every dispute by "cocking on your bitch," nothing will change.
Does a Soulja Boy want an education?
HBO did a fascinating documentary on Little Rock Central High School, the Arkansas school that required the National Guard so that nine black kids could attend in the 1950s. Fifty years later, the school is one of the nation's best in terms of funding and educational opportunities. It's 60 percent black and located in a poor black community.
Watch the documentary and ask yourself why nine poor kids in the '50s risked their lives to get a good education and a thousand poor black kids today ignore the opportunity that is served to them on a platter.
Blame drugs, blame Ronald Reagan, blame George Bush, blame it on the rain or whatever. There's only one group of people who can change the rotten, anti-education, pro-violence culture our kids have adopted. We have to do it.
According to reports, Sean Taylor had difficulty breaking free from the unsavory characters he associated with during his youth.
The "keepin' it real" mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There's always someone ready to tell you you're selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you're selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream.
The Black KKK is enforcing the same crippling standards as its parent organization. It wants to keep black men in their place � uneducated, outside the mainstream and six feet deep.
In all likelihood, the Black Klan and its mentality buried Sean Taylor, and any black man or boy reading this could be next.
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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It is funny how the issue of race is still so pervasive. 1/3 of the way through the article I was thinking " Oh boy, whitie is in trouble. Call up Sharpton right away!" Then I realized it was being written by a black man, damn fine article.  |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| You know a group of people is in trouble when they start expecting others to solve their problems for them. This is evident in Canada with the First Nations/Native people, in Korea with their constant scapegoating of America and Japan, and of a large number of Blacks in America. When 68% of your population is born out of wedlock, and 1/4 have a felony conviction, and your heroes are Snoop Dogg, basketball players who are unwed and fathers of countless children, and guys who call women bit ch es and ho's, it's time to look in the mirror. Michael Jackson really was one smart black guy, when he was black, back in the day. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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The high rate of crime and killing in African American neighborhoods is caused by poverty and racism.
What would you do if you had no chance of ever being able to afford college. You were surrounder by gangs and drugs. This gives you very few options |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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The high rate of crime and killing in African American neighborhoods is caused by poverty and racism.
What would you do if you had no chance of ever being able to afford college. You were surrounder by gangs and drugs. This gives you very few options |
I'm sorry, this is just pure crap. As much as the apologists want to poo poo it, pulling yourself up and working your butt off to change your circumstances is a viable "option". Yes, it can be done and people do it all the time...even (gasp!) black people from the 'hoods.
Now, I think it is fair to say that with the options in front of them, working yourself out of a bad situation is, without a doubt, the hardest one to accomplish. Getting into the gangs and drugs, I'm sure, is much easier and why a lot of kids turn this direction.
Its 2007 folks, slavery has been over in America for over 140 years. Let's quit blaming whitey for everything. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
The high rate of crime and killing in African American neighborhoods is caused by poverty and racism.
What would you do if you had no chance of ever being able to afford college. You were surrounder by gangs and drugs. This gives you very few options |
I agree with you. Poverty is a big part of the problem. As far as racism, it is as the writer in the OP's article points out, racism directed by blacks at blacks-the black KKK as he calls it. I think blaming the problems in the black community on racism doesn't make sense. If racism were to blame, then one would find similar problems in the Korean, Indian, Pakistani, Chinese communities. The only racism that is causing blacks to kill blacks, to abandon their children, to sell drugs and ho out their women, is a racism that Chris Rock so famously referred to as " I love black people, but I hate ....." |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:12 am Post subject: |
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members of the black press were complaining that news outlets were disrespecting Taylor's victimhood by reporting on his troubled past
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Having a young life tragically snuffed out early by a car accident or a disease is one thing. When someone flirts with death by hanging out with armed thugs and then gets killed is another thing. |
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dutchy pink
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Having a young life tragically snuffed out early by a car accident or a disease is one thing. When someone flirts with death by hanging out with armed thugs and then gets killed is another thing.
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There is no indication that the two were related.
According to my grandmother/parents, I am flirting with death by coming to a country at war with a nuclear weapon toting dictatorship.
Am I flirting with death? If I got killed here would your argument still apply? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Having a young life tragically snuffed out early by a car accident or a disease is one thing. When someone flirts with death by hanging out with armed thugs and then gets killed is another thing.
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There is no indication that the two were related.
According to my grandmother/parents, I am flirting with death by coming to a country at war with a nuclear weapon toting dictatorship.
Am I flirting with death? If I got killed here would your argument still apply? |
Yeah, actually it would. You know better, and everyone else teaching in Korea has that risk at that back of their minds, whether they think it's going to happen or not. A lot of older people have been witness to some of the crazy stuff that the North has done, and your choice to not heed their warnings does make you somewhat of an idiot, but bold at the same time.
I've known some gifted black students who flirted with that lifestyle because it seemed cool and they felt inadequate being part of the "good crowd". It was a choice they made. I hung out with some grungy punk white kids when I was younger too and came close to doing some really stupid things.
The issue at hand here is that a lot more black people do that than white, and it would be nice if they had some better role models to pave a better way for their success. I've met some like that, I've even seen some of them try to get through to the thugs and gangsters, and it isn't easy. There is a culture of pure lust, greed, and expectations that has been bred amongs many lower to middle income blacks that really hurts their opportunities in many ways. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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There is no indication that the two were related.
According to my grandmother/parents, I am flirting with death by coming to a country at war with a nuclear weapon toting dictatorship.
Am I flirting with death? If I got killed here would your argument still apply?
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I took it from the OP article that the two are connected. If I misread it, then my comments would be inappropriate.
Yes, I think we are all flirting (slightly) with death by living here. If I took the threat to be genuinely serious, I would not still be here. I was here in the 90's when the Norks were sending down armed infiltrators. It was more dangerous then, although the Norks were not targeting way-gookin English teachers. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: The "Black KKK" responsible for Taylor's death |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
| Curious as to what others' take is on this article. |
Sports fans and conservative leanings sure do make for a long, ranty, spittle-filled article, don't they? |
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boatofcar
Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Location: Sheffield, UK
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: The "Black KKK" responsible for Taylor's death |
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| twg wrote: |
| flakfizer wrote: |
| Curious as to what others' take is on this article. |
Sports fans and conservative leanings sure do make for a long, ranty, spittle-filled article, don't they? |
I'm sorry, are you trying to be clever? |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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I'm always saddened when I see something like this. Does it address A problem, I suppose. Does it address THE problem, I don't think so.
It's not about skin color, but about economics. I'm from a big town/small city in Iowa. There aren't alot of Af-Ams, yet the crime level is the same, possibly worse, than other places of similar size around the country. Why? Economically this town is in bad shape. There is little to no industry, and the majority of jobs are minimum wage to $10/hour. If you're from here, and plan on staying here, your best bet to get ahead economically is to engage in illegal activity.
It's not about being black, it's about being poor and feeling like you have no real options. Unfortunately alot of people are right about their limited options. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Czarjorge wrote: |
It's not about skin color, but about economics. I'm from a big town/small city in Iowa. There aren't alot of Af-Ams, yet the crime level is the same, possibly worse, than other places of similar size around the country. Why? Economically this town is in bad shape. There is little to no industry, and the majority of jobs are minimum wage to $10/hour. If you're from here, and plan on staying here, your best bet to get ahead economically is to engage in illegal activity.
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Yeah, whatever. They're all Mexicans! |
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