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widespread123
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
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^ Problem is people like this OP start threads like this.
Dave's Druggy Cafe then gets dragged onto the Korean news and a new law is brought in that every ESL instructor in Korea has to piss in a cup every Monday morning.
Where else is he going to find this information out? That's what Dave's is set up for. People smoke weed back home, big deal. I used to have drug issues back home and made the decision to come to Korea and get out of that lifestyle. I have not used drugs here and I think I have matured past my college days.
Please don't be an a$$ to someone just because they have a past. It was a legitimate question at the correct place to ask for advice.
When do we call it "The Past"....after one year or one minute. He was probably using when he wrote the post. If you know you have a drug problem then don't come here...they catch these idiots every year. Korea has strict laws about drugs..now you can't say you weren't informed. |
What's nice about Korea is that drugs are so non-existent (at least in Daegu) and so expensive when it does come around that it's very easy not to get tempted into doing it. Would it be nice to get high and watch "The Office"? Hell yeah it would. Would I shell out $50+ for a gram of schwag? I'll pass. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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So Dave's has become the mouthpiece for how to beat drug tests in Korea.
A tragedy.
Nothing like proving the Korean gov't right, .... eh? |
I see the issue differently: The Korean government want to test and punish teachers when they haven't broken Korean law. My idea is best: Test a new teacher 30 days after being in Korea. That way you know who is using in Korea.
Discussing legal issues is not illegal, nor does it mean a person uses or has ever used drugs. Many people are social or legal activities and don't sit well with intrusive or unnecessary laws.
About changing your user name: Your old posts will show up under your "post history" even under a new user name. If you want to hide your identity, like Mr. Squirrel suggests, you need to start a new account. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Cannabis 'more harmful than tobacco'
Smoking three cannabis cigarettes a day is as dangerous as having a whole packet of standard cigarettes, say researchers.
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Someone who smokes three jays a day everyday for thirty or forty years or until they die of their emphysema would have a lot more to worry about than their physical health. I think that would be Paranoia City to the extreme. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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^ Problem is people like this OP start threads like this.
Dave's Druggy Cafe then gets dragged onto the Korean news and a new law is brought in that every ESL instructor in Korea has to piss in a cup every Monday morning. |
sad....but true. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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So Dave's has become the mouthpiece for how to beat drug tests in Korea.
A tragedy.
Nothing like proving the Korean gov't right, .... eh? |
You cite the ease of beating drugs tests yet maintain the Korean govt is proved right? |
Yes, I was pointing out a major flaw in their system for drug checks.
I was not condoning cheating drug tests.
If they want to conduct health check drug tests on teachers, then the hospitals conducting these tests need a better system than letting a person pee in a vial and leave it sitting in the men's bathroom for anyone to tamper with.
I point this out, and you say I'm condoning drug use? Please... |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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[I see the issue differently: The Korean government want to test and punish teachers when they haven't broken Korean law.
My idea is best: Test a new teacher 30 days after being in Korea. That way you know who is using in Korea.
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How is that? If the 30 day rule ever came into effect, users would just start after thirty-ONE days. 
Is 30 days really long enough anyways? Methinks the first couple of weeks (at least for a newbie) would be pre-occupied with getting around and buying food.
The only real way to be sure would be to manadate random drug tests (4 or 5) over the course of the year. And that would be expensive and time-consuming. |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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My past employers(Hagwon Directors/Husband and Wife) were both arrested for Drunk Driving.
The wife got busted in the same year I worked for them(I'm not sure of the exact date) and the Husband got busted while I was under contract with them.
You might wonder how I know this? I later filed a labor complaint and won due to being fired illegally in the 11th month of my 1 year contract. I filed a document to the court to obtain access to the entire file and in it I read(my Korean friend, but I saw the dates) that during the hearing the labor ministry employee asked them about their past crimes(if any) and they answered 'YES.'
So, I say if potential E-2 visa holders can't obtain one due to drunk driving charges then Hagwon owners ought not be allowed to operate Hagwons if charged with drunk driving  |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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So Dave's has become the mouthpiece for how to beat drug tests in Korea.
A tragedy.
Nothing like proving the Korean gov't right, .... eh? |
You cite the ease of beating drugs tests yet maintain the Korean govt is proved right? |
Yes, I was pointing out a major flaw in their system for drug checks.
I was not condoning cheating drug tests.
If they want to conduct health check drug tests on teachers, then the hospitals conducting these tests need a better system than letting a person pee in a vial and leave it sitting in the men's bathroom for anyone to tamper with.
I point this out, and you say I'm condoning drug use? Please... |
Dear me, that's not what I meant at all. It was obvious from your post that you have an anti-drugs position. It just seemed weird how a claim about the govt being proved right sat alongside an acknowledgment of its flawed, next-to-useless system. |
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Morton
Joined: 06 Mar 2007
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I agree with the narrow minded sadsacks. Drugs are bad mmmkay
If you even see a joint you are then addicted to every other drug in existence. This means you will soon be dying of aids with a needle hanging out of your arm.
It doesn't matter if you were in a country where it is legal to smoke hash. All that matters is that anyone who partakes in a filthy habit like smoking a plant that grows naturally is not fit to lick the boots of a Korean student.
You make me sick with your stories of drug taking. You're probably the kind of person you puts chocolate syrup on perfectly adequate vanilla icecream when you get the 'munchies'.
How very dare you. |
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Netz
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"
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How very dare you. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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[I see the issue differently: The Korean government want to test and punish teachers when they haven't broken Korean law.
My idea is best: Test a new teacher 30 days after being in Korea. That way you know who is using in Korea.
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How is that? If the 30 day rule ever came into effect, users would just start after thirty-ONE days.
Is 30 days really long enough anyways? Methinks the first couple of weeks (at least for a newbie) would be pre-occupied with getting around and buying food.
The only real way to be sure would be to manadate random drug tests (4 or 5) over the course of the year. And that would be expensive and time-consuming. |
I think the issue is bunk to begin with and teachers should be drug tested only with probably cause. But I support things like human rights, innocent until proven guilty and low amounts of government interference in people's moral choices.
That said, in response to your post, I think my idea is more sensible than testing foreigners who just arrived to Korea and may have smoked in another country (possible legally in that other country, too). It is simply a better idea than testing right off the boat. Koreans are concerned with smoking weed in Korea, especially being under the influence around children. Anyone who does so is a downright idiot and deserves to be deported knowing the drug laws in Korea. My idea of testing after 30 days catches people who smoke in Korea, not people who are innocent of breaking Korean law and smoked in another country. |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the narrow minded sadsacks. Drugs are bad mmmkay
If you even see a joint you are then addicted to every other drug in existence. This means you will soon be dying of aids with a needle hanging out of your arm.
It doesn't matter if you were in a country where it is legal to smoke hash. All that matters is that anyone who partakes in a filthy habit like smoking a plant that grows naturally is not fit to lick the boots of a Korean student.
You make me sick with your stories of drug taking. You're probably the kind of person you puts chocolate syrup on perfectly adequate vanilla icecream when you get the 'munchies'.
How very dare you. |
if koreans smoked pot the entire country would fall apart - can you imagine?
they'd realize kpop sucked bigtime and might actually improvise something new
they'd stop caring about they looked and dressed so much and the fashion industry would collapse
the munchy craze would incite a whole new period of eating!! ohmygod what about all the diets koreans are on? weight gain!! are you kidding me!!
businessmen who toked once in a while might actually become curious about their children as they don't care so much about their jobs, come home and relax and play with their kids!!
can you imagine an entire culture who does nothing but push push push people out of their way might slow down; here, hon, you go on ahead, i'm in NO HURRY!!
wow - no wonder k's so fearful of potsmokers - ! what a threat they represent!!  |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Morton
Joined: 06 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Moosehead - you are a racist. Your comments would have perhaps amused a simple minded drug user but not I.
For I and many on this board realize that the Korean way is the only way. The cess pool that is Amsterdam is evidence that Korea is the shining light of the modern world. Do you see any redlight districts in Korea?
I consider my point proven. If you would now like to join my gang of non drug taking straight lace boors please PM me.
JUST SAY "NO, YOU ARE SCUM FOR EVEN OFFERING." |
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widespread123
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hahahahaha. The joys of teaching children.................ON WEED!!! Those crazy mothers sure don't know how to speak English. They say "Teacher, led eyes, way-o?" and "Teacher, Doritos clumbs on shirt." huh-huh-huh-huh!!!
I was like "Listen little bros, you gotta stop listenin' to the man. I got this old Phish tape with some crunchy grooves on it. Check it out after hagwon" |
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