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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistermasan wrote:
i thought you were an Ohio State fan. now you are rooting for OU? anything to get your buckeyes back into the championship, eh?

don't worry about outsiders crashing the big boys tea party. the tea party has already been blown up.


Of course and I'm getting it from my wife (a UT grad), shes been calling me a w *beep* all week Laughing Heck I'm rooting for Pitt too but no way they win that game

besides New Orleans is only an 8 hour drive from Austin I can make it there for a nat'l title game
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mistermasan



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

would fly all the way home to watch your team in the championship?

i did that for the rams in 2000 and it was a blast.
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

13-7 Pitt and Pat White is out late in the 4th

unbelieveable
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go. If Mizzou and WVU both lose, we're going to have to deal with the likelihood of a two-loss team in the NT game. And I wonder how the voters will vote. Georgia is next in line at number 4 in the BCS. But, they didn't win their conference. That seemed to matter to voters last year. I bet LSU will get bumped up to the NT game in the scenario where WVU and Mizzou both lose.
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANK YOU PITT!!!!!!!!
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lawyertood



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps they should give Hawaii a chance if they manhandle Washington.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hogwonguy1979 wrote:
THANK YOU PITT!!!!!!!!

Yeah, OSU is in for sure, but who will be their opponent? If OU wins, there will be a bunch of two-loss conference champs (USC, VTech, LSU, OU, WVU), one-loss Kansas and undefeated Hawaii.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still pulling for OU. I want the BCS to blow up and get a playoff in place.

I cant believe that a playoff wouldnt bring in more money than the status quo. the presidents and the bowls are so friggin greedy.

IMHO USC is the team playing the best right now and deserves to play OSU
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hogwonguy1979 wrote:
I'm still pulling for OU. I want the BCS to blow up and get a playoff in place.

I cant believe that a playoff wouldnt bring in more money than the status quo. the presidents and the bowls are so friggin greedy.

IMHO USC is the team playing the best right now and deserves to play OSU

I don't know. It's easy to forget about UGA because they didn't play for the SEC title and therefore have not been seen lately. But they won their last 6 games and in that span beat 3 ranked teams all by more than 10 points.
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Thunndarr



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakfizer wrote:
hogwonguy1979 wrote:
I'm still pulling for OU. I want the BCS to blow up and get a playoff in place.

I cant believe that a playoff wouldnt bring in more money than the status quo. the presidents and the bowls are so friggin greedy.

IMHO USC is the team playing the best right now and deserves to play OSU

I don't know. It's easy to forget about UGA because they didn't play for the SEC title and therefore have not been seen lately. But they won their last 6 games and in that span beat 3 ranked teams all by more than 10 points.


I think I'd look at overall body of work as well as at the losses each team has. USC lost to Stanford, which, to me, eliminates them from consideration. Georgia got blown out by Tennessee, and Tennessee, despite winning their division, is not a good team this year. LSU and OU seem to have had pretty good seasons IIRC, so I'd probably send one of them.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't want a national playoff. i don't like the BCS. i much prefer the way it used to be when winning your conference was the target. used to be alot of schools could finish as champs each year. the current fad for "there can only be one" is impossible to sort out: undefeated teams that don't get considered and multiple losers that don't win their conference get serious looks.

blow up the BCS stuff and let the conference championships be the goal.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thunndarr wrote:
flakfizer wrote:
hogwonguy1979 wrote:
I'm still pulling for OU. I want the BCS to blow up and get a playoff in place.

I cant believe that a playoff wouldnt bring in more money than the status quo. the presidents and the bowls are so friggin greedy.

IMHO USC is the team playing the best right now and deserves to play OSU

I don't know. It's easy to forget about UGA because they didn't play for the SEC title and therefore have not been seen lately. But they won their last 6 games and in that span beat 3 ranked teams all by more than 10 points.


I think I'd look at overall body of work as well as at the losses each team has. USC lost to Stanford, which, to me, eliminates them from consideration. Georgia got blown out by Tennessee, and Tennessee, despite winning their division, is not a good team this year. LSU and OU seem to have had pretty good seasons IIRC, so I'd probably send one of them.

True. Some see the season as merely a season and the only "playoff" is the bowl game. In that case, the season is looked at as a whole and the teams with the "best seasons" go to the NT game. Some people see the season as a kind of playoff, or at least the second half of the season as a playoff, and therefore losing in the second half of the season is much worse than losing early on. I see Georgia's coach is already making the case for his team (which hasn't lost in quite a while):
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Associated Press, Updated 3 hours ago

ATLANTA (AP) - Georgia coach Mark Richt turned politician as he lobbied for his No. 4 Bulldogs to land a spot in the national championship game.

Richt stated his case after watching No. 1 Missouri and No. 2 West Virginia lose Saturday night, opening the way for No. 3 Ohio State, Georgia, No. 5 LSU, No. 6 Virginia Tech and perhaps other teams to be included in the new national championship debate.
"It should come down to who the voters believe are the two best teams in the nation right now," Richt said.

"Let's face it, going into today we were ranked No. 4 in the BCS. They ranked us there for a reason. They believed we belonged there. Two teams lost ahead of us. Everybody knew going in we were not going to play for a conference championship and still they voted us there. They voted us there for a reason and I don't know why that should change right now."

LSU beat Tennessee 21-14 on Saturday in the Southeastern Conference championship game and may pass Georgia in the polls and BCS standings.

Asked directly if he believes Georgia is better than LSU, Richt didn't back down.

"I think if we'd have played for the (SEC) championship, we certainly believe we could have won the game," Richt said. "Do I think we could beat LSU? Yes."

Richt said he knows many will argue LSU is more deserving because it won the SEC title.

"The rules do not state that you must win your conference championship," he said. "We were co-champion (of the SEC East). We lost in a tie-breaker."

Richt also noted that his Bulldogs (10-2) ended the season with six straight wins.

"We beat Florida by double digits," Richt said. "We held Kentucky to 13 points and they're hanging 50 on some really good football teams. We beat Auburn by 25. We've just been very, very hot. We've been extremely strong.

This all seems rather familiar. The BCS is a disaster. For fans, it can be annoying, but for the players on some teams, it's got to be heartbreaking. Making an NFL squad and becoming millionaires before age 25 will probably ease the pain, though.


EDIT: Stewart Mandel uses the "whole season" approach and picks LSU.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/12/02/bcs.mess/index.html

Quote:
The adage in college football is that "every week matters." If that is indeed true, then the teams must be judged not by how they played the last week -- or the last month or the second half of the season. They must be judged on the merits of their entire season's work. When you do that, Georgia, for one, has no rational argument over the Tigers.


People make a good case for LSU, but I have a problem with one argument they make. Some keep mentioning that LSU lost both their games in OT. If barely losing is better than losing by a lot, then barely winning must be worse than winning easily, and while one could say that LSU was just a couple plays away from being undefeated, one could also say they were only a few plays away from losing 5 games instead of two. It's not fair to point out that they barely lost two games unless it also pointed out that they barely won a couple games, too.
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Thunndarr



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for Richt...He neglected to mention that his Bulldogs got spanked by a very mediocre Tennessee team this season. I'll say what I said last year, they had their chance, they blew it. IF Georgia had beaten LSU during the regular season, I could maybe see giving them the nod ahead of LSU even though they didn't make the title game, but they didn't.

On to the other contenders....Virginia Tech is being tossed around, but they got destroyed by LSU at the beginning of the season, so they shouldn't get the nod ahead of LSU.

OU beat a very good Mizzou team (twice) as well as won their conference. To me, they have a good shot because they didn't lose their second to last game of the season, but they look to be hurt by a somewhat weaker schedule.

USC...well, they could be in it, but they lost to Stanford.

LSU looks to have a pretty good case, but they did just lose to a 6-6 Arkansas team a week ago and barely scraped by Tennessee in the SEC championship game.

Edit: No matter what happens, the BCS failed miserably this year.


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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm happy Ohio St is playing for the title but man I am sick of Jim Delaney, the Big 10, PAC 10 and the Rose Bowl for being the main opposition to a playoff.

WE NEED A PLAYOFF, yeah it was nice to have these traditional bowl games but that was a different time when travel was harder and there was less money. Times change and traditions change, its now time to have a playoff so lets look at the arguments these morons make against a playoff:

1) the players will miss too much class time
BS!!!! If all the other divisions can have a playoff why cant Div I? Div III has a 32 team playoff those univs are much tougher academically than what players in DI programs face. heck most states have 32-64 team playoffs in high school. most schools would be on semester break while a playoff occurs and would likely miss only a few days of class. heck hoops players miss more class time than football players

2) the bowls have been good to DI and are viable
Have you seen the crowds at some of the non-major bowl games? My hs would outdraw them!!! The only games that draw well outside of the BCS are the Cotton, Cap One, Outback, Holiday, Peach and maybe Alamo. they are all nothing but a 3.5 hour promo for the city's tourist bureau (I'm waiting for KNTO to get a Korea Sparkling Bowl approved). heck if you dont make the playoff you can still play in loser.com bowl

3) not enough money
BS!!!! I bet one of the networks would shell out more than all of the bowls combined per year. CBS pays like what 500mill/year for March Madness.

rant over.

my thoughts for a 4 team playoff would be:
OSU-USC Rose Bowl
OU-LSU Sugar Bowl

winners play in New Orleans the 7th
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the bowls are set. LSU did get the nod. Vtech came in at third and was first in the computer ranking but got killed by the pollsters.

I foresee bad times for the Big Ten. OSU plays LSU in Lousianna (New Orleans), Illinois plays USC in California (Pasadena), Michigan plays Florida in Florida (Orlando) and we all know how well UM handles "mobile quarterbacks." Ouch.
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