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Best End of the World novels
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blade Runner was based on Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? The world depicted is strange, as is the norm for PKD, of course, but's not in danger.

It's not apocalyptic, but it is dystopic.

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I thought I had read everything he'd written at one time or another, but I may have missed something somewhere,

I may be misremembering, but wasn't The Lottery also dystopic?

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It's called "The End of Life as We Know It," by Lucius Shepard. (Clue: it's really the beginning of life as we DON'T know it, and that's a very exciting and wonderful time ...)

Was Shepherd the one who wrote Green Eyes?
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just going by the topic of the thread, not particularly sub-genre stuff - if PKD wrote about end-of-the-world stuff, hope someone will tell me.

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Was Shepherd the one who wrote Green Eyes?

His first novel, I think, and not bad for a beginner - my favorite of his novels, though is Life During Wartime about American soldiers in Central American war forced to take drugs by their military commanders to improve their battle performance, and later we learn that Psy Ops Branch uses actual psychics - Shepard wrote that one during the Reagan years, btw, in the middle of all the contra/Sandanista stuff goin' on ... great story, but not apocalyptic, not really.

I suppose Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery" could be a dystopia, and if so then so is Ursula LeGuin's "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas." Usually, the term refers to an imagined future where things are not happy, the opposite of utopia ...
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't a novel, just a short story, but Stephen Vincent Benet's 'By the Waters of Babylon' is a good end of the world story. In my opinion, one of the best. Here's the first paragraph:

The north and the west and the south are good hunting ground, but it is forbidden to go east. It is forbidden to go to any of the Dead Places except to search for metal and then he who touches the metal must be a priest or the son of a priest. Afterwards, both the man and the metal must be purified. These are the rules and the laws; they are well made. It is forbidden to cross the great river and look upon the place that was the Place of the Gods--this is most strictly forbidden. We do not even say its name though we know its name. It is there that spirits live, and demons--it is there that there are the ashes of the Great Burning. These things are forbidden--they have been forbidden since the beginning of time. (First published in the Saturday Evening Post, 1937)

You can read the whole story online here: http://www.tkinter.smig.net/Outings/RosemountGhosts/Babylon.htm
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
I suppose Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery" could be a dystopia,

Actually, I wasn't referring to that one... I must have misremembered the name. I was referring to PKD's novel about some sort of lottery.
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suppose Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery" could be a dystopia

One day out of the year. Laughing
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One day out of the year


Some people can be SO picky.
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trubadour



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cornilieus Chronicles, by Micheal Moorcock.

I've been fascinated by the end of the world thing for a long time and read one or two of these books when I was still in my teens. They made a real impression on me because they are so atmospheric, so trippy and so.. weirdly authentic?

In a way, philosophically/psychologically speaking, they describe an ultimate kind of apocalypse; one that occurs at the level of an individual, who's perceptions and sense of being and place distort and disintegrate until one doesn't really know what the hell is going on as reality loosens its hinges..


As far as a synopsis goes try http://www.complete-review.com/reviews/moorcock/cchron.htm
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grainger



Joined: 21 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to second Lucifer's Hammer. I couldnt' put it down.

"Lucifer's Hammer is a post-apocalyptic science fiction novel by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, first published in 1977. It was nominated for the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 1978."
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ChopChaeJoe



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucifer's Hammer is terrible, mostly because of it's two-dimensional (sometimes one-dimensional) characters and tight racism.

Mick Farren's Citizen Phaid (Phaid the Gambler) and Last Stand of th DNA Cowboys are excellent. King's The Stand was mentioned. Burrough's Nova Express and Ticket that Exploded deserve a mention.

My guilty pleasure favorite though, is a book called Down to a Sunless Sea, by a brit author whose name i have forgotten.
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harvid1



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: World War Z Reply with quote

Admitted, I am a huge zombie apocalypse fan. But it's halloween time, so why not?

But if you can get your hands on it, a pretty entertaining read is "World War Z."

Not a novel persay, but a bunch of interlinking experiences and interviews about how the world would have dealt with a large zombie outbreak.

Anyone else read this?
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been reading McCormac's The Road because of someone's recommendation here. Thanks. It's dark and depressing, but it manages to sing, regardless.
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