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[bacasper]

[mindmetoo]

[saw6436]

God I love it when BLT tries to go all rational.

[keane]

[igotthisguitar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfpzqf3XQfo

[igotthisguitar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfpzqf3XQfo

[thepeel]

[cbclark4]

So as a firefighter you should ignore anything suspicious?

Sound like DHS is merely informing the FDNY of what a terrorist may look like.
Sparsely furnished home, aircraft manuals, etc.

Should FDNY report to NYPD if they see signs of arson?

Should FDNY report to NYPD if they see signs of child abuse?

It's not like DHS is asking FDNY to carry tasers and tase anyone with
sparse furnishings.

[mindmetoo]

[mindmetoo]

[bacasper]

[igotthisguitar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Montag

Senate Bill 1959 to Criminalize Thoughts, Blogs,
Books and Free Speech Across America
2007 12 04

By Mike Adams | newstarget.com

The end of Free Speech in America has arrived at our doorstep. It's a new law called the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism "Prevention" Act, and it is worded in a clever way that could allow the U.S. government to arrest and incarcerate any individual who speaks out against the Bush Administration, the war on Iraq, the Department of Homeland Security or any government agency (including the FDA).

The law has already passed the House on a traitorous vote of 405 to 6, and it is now being considered in the Senate where a vote is imminent. All over the internet, intelligent people who care about freedom are speaking out against this extremely dangerous law: Philip Giraldi at the Huffington Post, Declan McCullagh at CNET's News.com, Kathryn Smith at OpEdNews.com, and of course Alex Jones at PrisonPlanet.com

This bill is the beginning of the end of Free Speech in America. If it passes, all the information sources you know and trust could be shut down and their authors imprisoned. NewsTarget could be taken offline and I could be arrested as a "terrorist." Jeff Rense at www.Rense.com could be labeled a "terrorist" and arrested. Byron Richards, Len Horowitz, Paul Craig Roberts, Greg Palast, Ron Paul and even Al Gore could all be arrested, silenced and incarcerated.

This is not an exaggeration. It is a literal reading of the law, which you can check yourself here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h1955_rfs.xml

The bill states:

�...ideologically based violence� means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual�s political, religious, or social beliefs ...

Note that this means the "planned use of force to promote a political or social belief" would be considered an act of terrorism. This all hinges on the definition of "force," of course. Based on the loose use of logic in Washington these days, and the slippery interpretation of the meaning of words, "force" could mean:

� A grassroots campaign to barrage Congress with faxes
� A non-violent street protest
� A letter-writing campaign that deluges the Senate with too much mail
� A sit-in protest that blocks access to a business or organization
� A grassroots e-mail campaign that overloads the e-mail servers of any government department or agency

You get the idea. "Force" could be defined as practically anything. And since the "planned use of force" would be considered a criminal act of terrorism, anyone who simply thinks about a grassroots action campaign would be engaged in terrorist acts.

If you stopped someone on the street and handed them a Bible, for example, this could be considered an act of terrorism ("... use of force to promote the individual's religious beliefs ...")

If you sent a barrage of angry letters to Washington about global warming and the destruction of the environment by the U.S. military, this could also be considered an act of terrorism ("... to promote the individual's political beliefs ...")

If you believe in same-sex marriage and you wrote a letter threatning a sit-in protest in front of your state's capitol building, this could also be considered an act of terrorism, even if you never carried it out! ("... planned use of force to promote a social belief ...")

The United States is on the fast track to fascism, and the Congress is working right alongside this nation's traitorous leaders to criminalize any thoughts, words or speeches that disagree with current government policies regarding war, terrorism, domestic surveillance and civil liberties. Simply speaking out against the war on Iraq could soon be labeled a crime. Merely thinking thoughts against the war on Iraq could be considered a criminal act.

Must-see video: Naomi Wolf's lecture on 10 steps to fascism
There's a video lecture you simply MUST watch. It's by Naomi Wolf, author of The End of America. She covers this topic with great elegance and a deep understanding of history.

MORE ...

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=2397

[mindmetoo]

[thepeel]

So, mm2, your observation is that the current American government has respected their constitution? That all the laws they have passed, and that are in effect, are in full legal line with the constitution?

[Pluto]

They, the government, certainly would argue that point. However, that is for the courts to decide. Under Article III of the constitution, the courts, any court for that matter, reserve the right to strike any law from the books.