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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: How America Lost the War on Drugs |
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This is a great article, more proof that the War on Drugs is a total friggin' waste of time, money, effort, and human life.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17438347/how_america_lost_the_war_on_drugs
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1. AFTER PABLO
On the day of his death, December 2nd, 1993, the Colombian billionaire drug kingpin Pablo Escobar was on the run and living in a small, tiled-roof house in a middle-class neighborhood of Medell�n, close to the soccer stadium. He died, theatrically, �ridiculously, gunned down by a Colombian police manhunt squad while he tried to flee across the barrio's rooftops, a fat, bearded man who had kicked off his flip-flops to try to outrun the bullets. The first thing the American drug agents who arrived on the scene wanted to do was to make sure that the corpse was actually Escobar's. The second thing was to check his house.
The last time Escobar had hastily fled one of his residences - la Catedral, the luxurious private prison he built for himself to avoid extradition to the United States - he had left behind bizarre, enchanting �detritus, the raw stuff of what would �become his own myth: the photos of �himself dressed up as a Capone-era gangster with a Tommy gun, the odd collection of novels ranging from Graham Greene to the Austrian modernist Stefan Zweig. Agents from the Drug Enforcement Administration, arriving after the kingpin had fled, found neat shelves lined with loose-leaf binders, carefully organized by content. They were, says John Coleman, then the DEA's assistant administrator for operations, "filled with DEA reports" - internal documents that laid out, in extraordinary detail, the agency's repeated attempts to capture Escobar. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: How America Lost the War on Drugs |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
This is a great article, more proof that the War on Drugs is a total friggin' waste of time, money, effort, and human life.
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Another good reason to vote for Ron Paul. |
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Justin Hale
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Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: How America Lost the War on Drugs |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
This is a great article, more proof that the War on Drugs is a total friggin' waste of time, money, effort, and human life.
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Another good reason to vote for Ron Paul. |
RP would do away with the drug war?  |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: How America Lost the War on Drugs |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
This is a great article, more proof that the War on Drugs is a total friggin' waste of time, money, effort, and human life.
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Another good reason to vote for Ron Paul. |
RP would do away with the drug war? |
Yes, he is for personal freedom and keeping the government from snooping on our personal habits. Remember, he comes from a Libertarian perspective. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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This is an amazing article and it should be mandatory reading for anyone pushing a get tough on crime philosophy. It shows that the government and the incessant Republican/Conservative noise machine is just that, nothing but noise.
The history of drug war is littered with colossal failures. In fact the only success (and by that I mean a drug actually removed from the market) has been Quaaludes. In 35+ years nothing, not the price, not the purity, not the social impacts, not even the invention of new drugs has been stopped.
I just wish someone would come along with the stones to dismantle this system and help move the US and the world out of this stupid and wasteful "war". |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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I just wish someone would come along with the stones to dismantle this system and help move the US and the world out of this stupid and wasteful "war". |
Its not going to be as easy as declaring victory. There are a great many special interest groups involved. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Its not going to be as easy as declaring victory. There are a great many special interest groups involved. |
In addition to law enforcement and prison guards, let's not forget the CIA, whom former Federal Judge and Head of the Drug Enforcement Administration Robert Bonner called a group of drug-smuggling thugs. |
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Octavius Hite
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Or big pharma who don't hold the patents for MDMA or THC so they continue to spread false information that these substances are dangerous. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| What meth proved was that even if the DEA could wipe out every last millionaire cocaine goon in Colombia, burn every coca field in Bolivia and Peru, and build an impenetrable wall along the entire length of the Mexican border - even then, we wouldn't have won the War on Drugs, because there would still be methamphetamine, and after that, something else. |
The never ending war......the never ending profits...... |
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endo
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Haislip believes he was present the moment when the United States lost the war on methamphetamine, way back in 1986, when meth was still a crude biker drug confined to a few valleys in Northern California - a decade before the Mexican drug lords turned it into the most problematic drug in America. |
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| Haislip convinced them that the small, growing population of speed freaks in Northern California was enough of a concern that Congress should pass a law to regulate the drug's precursor chemicals, ephedrine and pseudoephedrine, legal drugs that were used in cold medicine and produced in fewer than a dozen factories in the world. |
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| All that was left was to convince the Reagan administration. |
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| Haislip noticed several men in suits sitting quietly in the back of the room. They were lobbyists from the pharmaceutical industry, |
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But what Haislip didn't know was that the men in suits had already gone to work to rig the bill in their favor. "Quite frankly," Allan Rexinger, one of the lobbyists present at the meeting later told reporters, "we appealed to a higher authority." The pharmaceutical industry needed pseudoephedrine to make profitable cold medications. The result, to Haislip's dismay, was a new law that monitored sales of ephedrine and pseudoephedrine in bulk powder but created an exemption for selling the chemicals in tablet form - a loophole that protected the pharmaceutical industry's profits.
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The general public is being played like little biatches!
The thing is we're so obsessed with consumerism that we really don't care. After all President Bush said it best after 9/11, "shop, shop, shop.....that's how you can help America." (loosely quoted)
Civics is dead in America.
The corporations (primarily the military industrial complex and the pharmecutical industry) have more power over our legislators than the voters do.
Facism clouded in "consumer democracy"  |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
This is an amazing article and it should be mandatory reading for anyone pushing a get tough on crime philosophy. It shows that the government and the incessant Republican/Conservative noise machine is just that, nothing but noise.
The history of drug war is littered with colossal failures. In fact the only success (and by that I mean a drug actually removed from the market) has been Quaaludes. In 35+ years nothing, not the price, not the purity, not the social impacts, not even the invention of new drugs has been stopped.
I just wish someone would come along with the stones to dismantle this system and help move the US and the world out of this stupid and wasteful "war". |
This is why Harper has to go. He is parroting the idiot line about "keeping our children safe" etc etc. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| Fun reading the armchair musings of potheads who had to move overseas to escape reality. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: Re: How America Lost the War on Drugs |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| RP would do away with the drug war? |
Here's a clip for you.
And another. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
| Fun reading the armchair musings of potheads who had to move overseas to escape reality. |
What a scholar. |
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