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marmotkorea
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: Moving to New York |
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I'll be moving to New York in a couple of months. I'm a U.S. citizen, but completely unfamiliar with the New York area.
Could anyone please give some advice on where a good place to look for a house/apt. will be? Interested in both rental and purchase in either the city or suburbs (subject to reasonable commute). TIA. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: |
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I absolutely love everything in the East Village (below Union Square and above Houston). Actually, I take that back, I loved absolutely everything below 14th Street in Manhattan.
Outside of Manhattan, many young people are moving to Williamsburg in Brookly. An interesting Polish neighborhood is above it - Greenspoint. Everything is in Polish, the stores and everything. Kinda interesting and nearby Manhattan as well.
I also have to admit I kinda liked Flushing Queens for its high Asian population, as well as Astoria (heavy greek area that isn't too far from Manhattan just into Queens).
If I were younger, I'd do whatever it takes to be in Manhattan at all costs (which is what I did the first time). Upper East Side is also good for this, believe it or not.
Well, what kind of budget are you looking at? Are you single or married? |
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derl
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:50 am Post subject: |
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It all depends on your budget. Do you want cheap or dirt cheap? NYC is very expensive in terms of real estate. Will you be sharing?
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, more info would be appreciated.. Given NYC's size, it has pretty much everything. It totally depends on your budget and what you're looking for.
I'm a big fan of Astoria and LIC simply because they are right across the river from Manhattan, extremely diverse, and a bit cheaper. Not the prettiest of areas though.
Brooklyn these days is getting quite pricey and some areas are very popular with twenty-somethings. |
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marmotkorea
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks very much for the replies. I'm married, have a small child, and would budget up to ~3000/mo for rent and ~475000 for purchase. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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One reality one must consider is how decent the job market is for your qualifications and ambitions. How good are your prospects of success without going broke? I was going to move to New York 2 years ago when I graduated college, but found it was tough just to get a $30,000 a year job there, though they are available. I wanted to get close the action of the business world and become an analyst, but the start up costs and cost of living are grossly out of my range of possibility.
Do you already have a great job set up or staying with someone to get established?
Any opinions, ideas, and facts any of you have on living in New York is greatly appreciated. It could be a gold mine to have a career or it could be too low paying with a too high cost of living. |
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marmotkorea
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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sojourner1 wrote: |
One reality one must consider is how decent the job market is for your qualifications and ambitions. How good are your prospects of success without going broke? I was going to move to New York 2 years ago when I graduated college, but found it was tough just to get a $30,000 a year job there, though they are available. I wanted to get close the action of the business world and become an analyst, but the start up costs and cost of living are grossly out of my range of possibility.
Do you already have a great job set up or staying with someone to get established? |
I should have mentioned my company is sending me to the U.S. |
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marmotkorea
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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bucheon bum wrote: |
Yeah, more info would be appreciated.. Given NYC's size, it has pretty much everything. It totally depends on your budget and what you're looking for. |
Hi, BB, you're from the Bay Area, right?
What I'm basically looking for is to find out what are the (rough) NY Metro equivalents of, say:
Concord
Walnut Creek
Hayward
Fremont
San Mateo
Fairfield
the South Bay
neighborhoods in the City
etc.
in order to get an idea of quality/style of life, as well as cost. |
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jeffkim1972
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Location: Mokpo
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on where you're working, many people also live across the river in NJ.
NY City is Huge, as well as the surrounding suburbs so you really have to be more precise. don't say NY, which burrough and where in the burrough?
Where are you working?
Drive to work? and how long (can be up to an hour)
Commute by train? and how long (can be up to an hour)
Sorry, i've never lived in California, so can't compare the two. |
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marmotkorea
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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jeffkim1972 wrote: |
Depending on where you're working, many people also live across the river in NJ.
NY City is Huge, as well as the surrounding suburbs so you really have to be more precise. don't say NY, which burrough and where in the burrough?
Where are you working?
Drive to work? and how long (can be up to an hour)
Commute by train? and how long (can be up to an hour)
Sorry, i've never lived in California, so can't compare the two. |
Thanks for your reply.
Midtown Manhattan
I'd prefer to use public transportation
Train, bus, or ferry would all be OK
I'm open to up to an hour commute each way. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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marmotkorea wrote: |
bucheon bum wrote: |
Yeah, more info would be appreciated.. Given NYC's size, it has pretty much everything. It totally depends on your budget and what you're looking for. |
Hi, BB, you're from the Bay Area, right?
What I'm basically looking for is to find out what are the (rough) NY Metro equivalents of, say:
Concord
Walnut Creek
Hayward
Fremont
San Mateo
Fairfield
the South Bay
neighborhoods in the City
etc.
in order to get an idea of quality/style of life, as well as cost. |
Unfortunately I don't know the surrounding areas very well. As someone else mentioned, I'd say you'd be looking at NJ, plus CT and Long Island. Maybe Staten Island would work too. Hopefully someone on this board can key you in on suburban NYC. |
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kapshida
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Hoboken, NJ is a great city, and couldn't be a shorter commute to manhattan on the Path train. Greenpoint in Brooklyn, as someone said above, is great, but if you have a kid, I don't think it would be ideal. $3000 a month won't get you much in manhattan. I used to be a realtor there, so believe me. It's not worth it. Plus, you'll be paying first month's rent, security, and the realtor's fee (which in Manhattan is a shocking 15% of the yearly rent- close to two months!)
Cobble Hill in Brooklyn is a great place, as is Park Slope- they'd be great places to have kids, plus a pretty short commute to the city. You can get a pretty decent place there too, for what you are willing to spend. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: |
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marmotkorea wrote: |
bucheon bum wrote: |
Yeah, more info would be appreciated.. Given NYC's size, it has pretty much everything. It totally depends on your budget and what you're looking for. |
Hi, BB, you're from the Bay Area, right?
What I'm basically looking for is to find out what are the (rough) NY Metro equivalents of, say:
Concord
Walnut Creek
Hayward
Fremont
San Mateo
Fairfield
the South Bay
neighborhoods in the City
etc.
in order to get an idea of quality/style of life, as well as cost. |
Oh Lord, I lived in both New York City and San Francisco.
The Bay Area suburbs is what you are looking for? California-style suburbs just don't exist in the New York City area. Everything outside of NYC is, ahm, slightly more old-style ghetto looking (for lack of a better word). I always felt it got rougher and rougher.
Sounds like you want 'car culture' and those chain stores everywhere. Hmm..pretty much everything around New York City has a very strong urban feel to it. The only real suburban area might be 'Long Island'? Maybe? I lived in Manhattan/Brooklyn, and I don't know 'Long Island', but its basically where people go and live for a more suburban-like existance of some kind that I know of.
Hope that kinda helps anyways. NYC is gonna be SO different from suburban California.
NYC, pretty much everywhere, is more Seoul-style setup. Meaning public transportation runs nearly everywhere, buildings are just stacked up on top of each other everywhere, minimarts and everying you can imagine is always within a 5-minute walk of wherever you live. The greatest similarity though, is that cars are a major pain in the ass, and you can anywhere in NYC or Seoul much faster by just hopping on a subway or bus to avoid traffic/parking nightmares/headaches. Plus everything in NYC is going to cost you a lot of money for parking nearly wherever you go.
New Jersey is more car culture, but it's more like an Oakland or something but less urban rather than a California-style suburb. Everytime I went to NJ, I just hated it. Felt sketchy all the time. |
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haute 4 teacher
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hey now!
I'm from dirty Jerz' and the sketchiness is the whole appeal.
I lived 5 minutes from the beach and a 1 hr train ride to mid-town Manhattan.
In certain parts of Brooklyn and the other boroughs your commute could be longer than 1 hr, even though you are 30 miles closer to the city. It all depends on the buses and subway.
Man, now that I'm here I feel as though I never fully appreciate the proximity to the diversity of New York. Any street in Manhattan would have more of a variety of restaurants than the whole city I'm in now.
And you can hear 4 different languages being spoken in 5 minutes and nobody thinks anything of it.
And if you stare at somebody you either want sex or drugs or both.
And your girlfriend doesn't get yelled at for talking on the bus.
Ah, Falafel........I miss you!![/quote] |
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