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Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:12 am Post subject:

Given that the people who found the print are with a tv production company you know they took pictures. They're probably just holding them for presentation on their show. And the comment about gorilla babies wasn't a joke. If it is possible that two seperate species of ape can interbreed, why couldn't humans and apes. Has a scientist ever combined sperm and embryos from the various species to see what would happen? The genetic difference between gorillas and chimps is pretty wide. The genetic difference between humans and apes is even greater. That would be crazy though. Then again, supposedly AIDS came from interspecies sex between humans and monkeys, some maybe someone has tried.

mindmetoo

Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:08 am Post subject:

Czarjorge wrote:

Then again, supposedly AIDS came from interspecies sex between humans and monkeys, some maybe someone has tried.

While HIV/SIV genetic testing has show a highly probable link between the human and simian versions, I don't think the "sex" method of transmission has been seriously proffered. A bit or eating bush meat would be as likely.

Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:57 am Post subject:

I don't know. Chimps are pretty sexy...

Ya-ta Boy

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:06 am Post subject:

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And many more. So it is in fact extremely likely that new large mammals will be discovered in even the next 5 years.

Yes, all of them are cute and cuddly, but none of them are of the size we're talking about on this thread.

Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:52 am Post subject:

Czarjorge wrote:

Given that the people who found the print are with a tv production company you know they took pictures. They're probably just holding them for presentation on their show.

And the comment about gorilla babies wasn't a joke. If it is possible that two seperate species of ape can interbreed, why couldn't humans and apes. Has a scientist ever combined sperm and embryos from the various species to see what would happen? The genetic difference between gorillas and chimps is pretty wide. The genetic difference between humans and apes is even greater. That would be crazy though. Then again, supposedly AIDS came from interspecies sex between humans and monkeys, some maybe someone has tried.

The size of a human *beep* would make any other primate run away. And no human female would leave satisfied after sleeping with a monkey or gorilla. Nor would she want to give birth to a silverback.

Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:26 am Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

I seriously hope so. Laughing

Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:40 am Post subject:

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

Yes, all of them are cute and cuddly, but none of them are of the size we're talking about on this thread.

New giant ape found in DR Congo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3730574.stm

Still not able to play at my level after all these years Attaboy? Wink

Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:13 am Post subject:

Bibbitybop wrote:

Czarjorge wrote:

The size of a human *beep* would make any other primate run away. And no human female would leave satisfied after sleeping with a monkey or gorilla. Nor would she want to give birth to a silverback.

Really? Are gorilla's sporting red rockets? I'm not sure I believe you.

mindmetoo

Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject:

Junior wrote:

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

Yes, all of them are cute and cuddly, but none of them are of the size we're talking about on this thread.

New giant ape found in DR Congo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3730574.stm

Still not able to play at my level after all these years Attaboy? Wink

You got anything more than a four year old BBC link?

"The animals, with characteristics of both gorillas and chimpanzees, have been sighted in the north of the Democratic Republic of Congo."

That's a good start but I'm not sure you really understand how science works. Still don't grasp science after all these years?

ED209

Joined: 17 Oct 2006

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject:

Humanzee

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The Humanzee (also known as the Chuman, or Manpanzee) is a hypothetical chimpanzee/human hybrid. Chimpanzees and humans are very closely related (95% of their DNA sequence, and 99% of coding DNA sequences in common [1]), leading to contested speculation that a hybrid is possible, though no specimen has ever been confirmed.

First Born

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First Born is a British television serial produced by the BBC in 1988.

Charles Dance starred as genetic researcher Edward Forester, whose work leads him to create a man-gorilla hybrid, using his own sperm and cells taken from a female gorilla. He then raises the baby as his own son, only to find that there are horrifying consequences for playing God.

Jamie Foster played Gor, the hybrid, while other notable cast members included Julie Peasgood, Beth Pearce, Gabrielle Anwar, Philip Madoc and Sharon Duce.

The three-part serial was written by Ted Whitehead (adapted from the novel Gor Saga by Maureen Duffy), produced by Sally Head and directed by Philip Saville.

2entertain Ltd released the serial on Region 2 DVD in the UK on July 17, 2006.

Planet of the Apes

Go on! Telling me you haven't done worse than that on a Saturday night?

yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:40 am Post subject:

Bibbitybop wrote:

yingwenlaoshi wrote:

You can joke all you want, but it seems they did find footprints. I'm not one to believe ghost stories, but it's possible there's another kind of creature out there. Just like the crazy ones they've found in the deepest parts of the world's oceans.

It would be cool if they found some sorto of yeti.

Why didn't one of the nine producers take a picture of and publish their found footprint?

Actually, my adult student said he saw pictures of the footprint today or yesterday on the net or the news. I didn't get him to show me in class, but I'm going to see if I can find them on the net a little later.

Or someone else could post them?

(chamshihu)

Nevermind. Here's one:

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American television channel host Josh Gates displays what is believed to be "Yeti" footprints to the media in Kathmandu Nov. 30, 2007. The U.S.-based television channel investigating the existence of the legendary Yeti in Nepal has found footprints similar to those said to be that of the abominable snowman, the company said on Friday. A team of nine producers from Destination Truth, armed with infrared cameras, spent a week in the icy Khumbu region where Mount Everest is located and found the footprints on the bank of Manju river at a height of 2,850 meters (9,350 feet). (Xinhua/Reuters Photo)

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KATHMANDU, Dec. 1 (Xinhua) -- A team of explorers has arrived in Nepal's capital with an exciting story of finding footprints of yeti near the base camp of Mt. Qomolangma, at Khumbu in eastern Nepal, The Himalayan Times reported on Saturday.

"We are happy to say that we have found footprints of yeti. And the snowman is no more a legend for us now," Joshua Gates, the team leader of the expedition of the American television channel Destination Truth, told the media Friday.

Showing the model of the footprint, collected at the site, some200 km east of Kathmandu, he said that some scientific research would continue in the U.S. regarding its authenticity and other phases of exploration for further studies.

The team, consisting of 9 Americans and 14 Nepalis, left Kathmandu on Nov. 24 and arrived here on Friday after the expedition.

He said that the team found the footprints when it was returning from Khumbu by the confluence of Ghettekhola and Dudhkoshi rivers, near Monju village at a height of 2,850 meters.

It was Tul Bahadur Rai, assistant guide of the team, who first spotted the footprint by the riverbank.

"It was the night of November 28. I cried in excitement when I saw the footprints. I called all the members and they took photographs and also made a model of the footprint, after they were convinced that it indeed was a footprint," he told the daily.

He also said that one of the prints was around 12 inches long and others were smaller because the ground was not even and the prints were not clear.

This is not the first time, footprints of yeti, a species of hairy, humpbacked and dark giant biped ape, were found in Nepal's Himalayan valleys.

In 1925 a Greek photographer, NA Tombazi, claimed that he had spotted an ape-like creature walking in the valley near Mt. Qomolangma.

Another noted explorer who claimed to have seen yeti was the father of Tenzing Norgay Sherpa, the first person to climb Mt. Qomolangma.

Similarly, British mountaineers Eric Shipton and Michael Ward found the yeti footprints in 1951 near the border area.

Even Sir Edmund Hillary and his Sherpa guide, Tenzing Norgay, found giant footprints on the way up the top of Mt. Qomolangma, in1953.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-12/01/content_7179448.htm

Masta_Don

Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:50 am Post subject:

Czarjorge wrote:

One of the qualifications behind speciation is that the two species, the new one and the one it arose from, can't interbreed, at least not a viable offspring.

The thing with the giant squid is that we had evidence that it existed - washed up carcasses - but no one had ever seen one alive. No one, in all the history of yeti-kind with its numerous and worldwide sightings, has ever found a dead one, or even hair or teeth or anything supporting the idea that they exist.

Ryst Helmut

Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:07 am Post subject:

Czarjorge wrote:

If these new apes are a hybrid of gorilla and chimp mating it opens up whole new worlds. I want to have a gorilla baby.

Hmm, I wonder if anyone has ever tried?

^^^^^^Her parents?

!shoosh,

Ryst

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