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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Is this going overboard? You decide. Reply with quote
Do you think this is out-of-hand?

The woman had been ordered not to talk to any minor... at all. Even female minors. Now, given the fact that she's a sex offender, isn't it pretty much impossible to go through life without talking to a minor? Especially if you're trying to work? The constitution says people should be protected from cruel and unusual punishment... wouldn't this constitute that?

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,54,00.html#8_0

She got to the end of her sentence, and she was busted... for what? Talking to a female minor. That's right... talking.

Police: Sure, you had a spotless record since we busted you, but we caught you talking to someone, so now we've got to extend your sentence.

You decide.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sounds like it was a condition of probation.

A condition of probation is a contract, an agreement between you and the
court. You agree to conditions such as no contact with minors, so long as
you conform to the agreement the state will defer your incarceration.

The punishment is incarceration.

The deferment is granted with the agreement.
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keysbottles



Joined: 11 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't have much sympathy for sex offenders, period,,even a female as hot as this one.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
cbclark4 wrote:
Sounds like it was a condition of probation.


Then the contract was ridiculous.

The whole thing is farcical.

Also, I find it strange that Americans aren't supposed to have sex until they're 18. That's madness, it defies nature.

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Pluto



Joined: 19 Dec 2006
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Bird wrote:


Also, I find it strange that Americans aren't supposed to have sex until they're 18. That's madness, it defies nature.


Shocked I wasn't aware of that. I know the age in Illinois is 17, but that is for consensual sex between adults. An adult can go to jail for having sex with minor aged 17 or under. Though I know of no law where two minors having sex is actually illegal.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pluto wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:


Also, I find it strange that Americans aren't supposed to have sex until they're 18. That's madness, it defies nature.


Shocked I wasn't aware of that. I know the age in Illinois is 17, but that is for consensual sex between adults. An adult can go to jail for having sex with minor aged 17 or under. Though I know of no law where two minors having sex is actually illegal.


Do different states have different laws?

In the UK you can legally shag at 16. That seems reasonable to me.
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Did you mean to provide this link?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315052,00.html

It sounds as if it was more than just the kind of talking that would be necessary for her to live her life and hold down a job ... I guess the court is concerned that the two women were forming a relationship that could eventually become inappropriate. Without more information it's hard to say whether the punishment was excessive or not.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Bird wrote:
Then the contract was ridiculous.

The whole thing is farcical.

Also, I find it strange that Americans aren't supposed to have sex until they're 18. That's madness, it defies nature.

Ha.

Continuing to get your info about America from the Guardian, I see?

First of all, Big Bird, America is a union of fifty states. The statutory rape laws vary from state to state.

The maximum is 18, but in the bulk of jurisdictions age of consent is somewhere between 14-16. Part of the idea is that when sex occurs between an older person and a young person, there should be a presumption of rape. In practice, if the parents consent to the relationship, there usually is not prosecution.

The laws themselves vary. Look at Maryland's:

Quote:
Second-degree rape to have vaginal intercourse with a person under age 14 if the actor is at least four years older


So there is no prosecution if both are under-aged.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kuros wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
Then the contract was ridiculous.

The whole thing is farcical.

Also, I find it strange that Americans aren't supposed to have sex until they're 18. That's madness, it defies nature.

Ha.

Continuing to get your info about America from the Guardian, I see?

First of all, Big Bird, America is a union of fifty states. The statutory rape laws vary from state to state.

The maximum is 18, but in the bulk of jurisdictions age of consent is somewhere between 14-16. Part of the idea is that when sex occurs between an older person and a young person, there should be a presumption of rape. In practice, if the parents consent to the relationship, there usually is not prosecution.

The laws themselves vary. Look at Maryland's:

Quote:
Second-degree rape to have vaginal intercourse with a person under age 14 if the actor is at least four years older


So there is no prosecution if both are under-aged.


Firstly I've never seen an article in The Guardian that discussed the age of consent in America.

Secondly, if you bother to read my second post you'll see I did ask if the law was different in different states.

In the UK, once you hit 16 you can sleep with anyone else over 16.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Bird wrote:

Secondly, if you bother to read my second post you'll see I did ask if the law was different in different states.

In the UK, once you hit 16 you can sleep with anyone else over 16.


Right. But I was writing my post as you posted that.
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