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atomic42
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 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: Former President of Italy: 9/11 was an Inside Job |
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According to the former President of the Republic Francesco Cossiga
Osama-Berlusconi? �Journalistic trap�
�It's a Mediaset forgery sent to Al-Jazeerah in order to generate sympathy toward il Cavaliere [Berlusconi]�
ROME - �Based on what I've heard, either tomorrow or the day after, the biggest newspaper chain in our country will provide an exceptional scoop, evidence that the video [actually an audio, editor] in which Osama Bin Laden, leader of the 'Great and Powerful Movement of Islamic Retribution Al Qaeda', may Allah bless him!, which contains threats against [Italy's] ex-premier Silvio Berlusconi, is nothing but a forgery created in Mediaset's studios in Milan and forwarded to the Islamic TV network Al-Jazeerah which aired it�. So stated the former President of the Republic [of Italy] Francesco Cossiga in a press release.
TRAP - "The 'trap' was set, according to the above mentioned newspaper chain, in order to raise a tidal wave of solidarity toward Berlusconi, at a time when he is in difficulty partly due to another scoop by the same newspaper chain regarding shadowy deals between RAI [Italian state broadcaster] and Mediaset [Berlusconi's media company]", the senator for life continues. "From sources close to Palazzo Chigi, nerve center of the Italian intelligence services, it is noted that the non-authenticity of the video is proven by the fact that in it Osama Bin Laden "confesses" that Al Qaeda authored the 9/11 attacks on the two towers in New York, while all democratic elements of America and Europe, and especially the Italian center-left, are well aware that the disastrous attack was planned and executed by the American CIA and the Mossad with help from organized Zionists in order to accuse the Arab world and to induce the Western powers to intervene in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It is for this reason - Cossiga concludes - that Silvio Berlusconi, the author of the clever forgery, hasn't received a single word of solidarity either from the Quirinale [Presidency], from Palazzo Chigi [Ministry of Foreign Affairs] or from anyone from the center-left!"
SOLIDARITY - In reality Berlusconi has received an expression of solidarity on behalf of the government by Vannino Chiti, Minister of Relations with Parliament: "I express my solidarity with Silvio Berlusconi who has been threatened, along with other European leaders, by the terrorist Osama Bin Laden in his propaganda message. Against terrorism and against these rantings we must strenghten the unity of the Italian body politic and the common effort and the solidarity of Europe's peoples".
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Former President of Italy: 9/11 was an Inside Job |
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| Gee, forging a bin Laden confession tape, I wonder from whom they got that idea. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
Man who set up Operation Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA, Mossad
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, December 4, 2007
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Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy's most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.
Cossiga was elected President of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985.
Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed - an honest politician - and led the country for seven years until April 1992.
Cossiga's tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio - a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60's, 70's and 80's.
Gladio's specialty was to carry out what they coined "false flag operations," terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.
Cossiga's revelations contributed to an Italian parliamentary investigation of Gladio in 2000, during which evidence was unearthed that the attacks were being overseen by the U.S. intelligence apparatus.
In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."
Cossiga's new revelations appeared last week in Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation.
"[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe ... now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part ... in Iraq [and] Afghanistan."
Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9/11 in 2001, and is quoted in Webster Tarpley's book as stating that "The mastermind of the attack must have been a �sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel.�
Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga's assertion that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies is highly unlikely to be mentioned by any establishment media outlets, because like the hundreds of other sober ex-government, military, air force professionals, allied to hundreds more professors and intellectuals - he can't be sidelined as a crackpot conspiracy theorist. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Absent evidence...still another crackpot. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Absent evidence...still another crackpot. |
will the crackpots still be considered crackpots when they outnumber the non-crackpots or will the non-crackpots suddenly become crackpots?
and, what is a crackpot exactly? |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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a former president of Italy says 9-11 was an inside job......
and nobody responds?
hahaha.....
got denial? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Absent evidence...still another crackpot. |
I have no dog in this fight and am not particularly inspired by this issue (I'm a three trick pony). However, I feel I must ask you if have you evaluated the evidence for the government story or merely assumed it to be true and rejected the non-government questions out of a loyalty to the official story? Seriously, have you looked at the evidence?
Saying that the government story is deception doesn't mean it was an "inside job" or that "bush did it". I do not believe that George Bush or any other government figure/agency is part of some conspiracy to bring down those buildings. There very easily could have been a ground level terrorist cell of pissed off muslims that were not in the planes. But building 7 was "pulled". That is confirmed by the man who owned it. It was a controlled demolition. That doesn't mean that WTC 1,2 were a controlled demolition nor that a scud hit the pentagon. But building 7 being brought down by fire is laughably stupid. There is an airplane sized hole in the official story. Right? Is it 100% true? |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| Absent evidence...still another crackpot. |
I have no dog in this fight and am not particularly inspired by this issue (I'm a three trick pony). However, I feel I must ask you if have you evaluated the evidence for the government story or merely assumed it to be true and rejected the non-government questions out of a loyalty to the official story? Seriously, have you looked at the evidence?
Saying that the government story is deception doesn't mean it was an "inside job" or that "bush did it". I do not believe that George Bush or any other government figure/agency is part of some conspiracy to bring down those buildings. There very easily could have been a ground level terrorist cell of pissed off muslims that were not in the planes. But building 7 was "pulled". That is confirmed by the man who owned it. It was a controlled demolition. That doesn't mean that WTC 1,2 were a controlled demolition nor that a scud hit the pentagon. But building 7 being brought down by fire is laughably stupid. There is an airplane sized hole in the official story. Right? Is it 100% true? |
i commend you on your research.
the silence of others is very telling in my opinion. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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are you aware there has never been an official report that explains why the building came down like it did, and that the NIST has stated that they do no know why it came down in the manner it did? Get with the program! |
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enns
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:43 am Post subject: |
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do we really need a report? really? isn't having every top engineer and scientist in the world supporting the prevailing theory enough? I'll take their word before the 24 year old hot heads who made loose change and who are not authorities on engineering, architecture, etc.
but I guess all of these highly trained experts around the world are in on it too? |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| enns wrote: |
do we really need a report? really? isn't having every top engineer and scientist in the world supporting the prevailing theory enough? I'll take their word before the 24 year old hot heads who made loose change and who are not authorities on engineering, architecture, etc.
but I guess all of these highly trained experts around the world are in on it too? |
...cue loosends to edu-cate this noob  |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| enns wrote: |
do we really need a report? really? isn't having every top engineer and scientist in the world supporting the prevailing theory enough? I'll take their word before the 24 year old hot heads who made loose change and who are not authorities on engineering, architecture, etc.
but I guess all of these highly trained experts around the world are in on it too? |
...cue loosends to edu-cate this noob |
Yes, remind us again that are 200 engineers and architects (out of how many thousands?) who disagree with the "official report." |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| enns wrote: |
do we really need a report? really? isn't having every top engineer and scientist in the world supporting the prevailing theory enough? I'll take their word before the 24 year old hot heads who made loose change and who are not authorities on engineering, architecture, etc.
but I guess all of these highly trained experts around the world are in on it too? |
...cue loosends to edu-cate this noob |
Yes, remind us again that are 200 engineers and architects (out of how many thousands?) who disagree with the "official report." |
Where is the list of the "many thousands" who agree with the "official report" (and correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the official report say "we can't explain what happened to building 7"? |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
Where is the list of the "many thousands" who agree with the "official report" (and correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the official report say "we can't explain what happened to building 7"? |
Journaled articles run about 20:1 in favor of airliner + fire induced collapse.
I don't rely on "official reports" to make my decision. The FEMA report identifies the structural causes and the 9/11 debunking sites address the two major CT counter claims - insignificant damage to WTC7 and Silverstein's "pull" comment. |
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