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marktoronto



Joined: 02 Jun 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:13 am    Post subject: TEFL Reply with quote

After finishing teaching for 1 year in Korea, I would like to teach english in another part of the world. I've noticed a lot of schools require not only a university BA, but also a TEFL certificate. My question is: do all 120 hour TEFL certificates hold the same weight? Is there a particular cetificate that would mean more worldwide or can I just get one by completing an internet course? Also, can someone recommend one in Toronto?
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kimcheeking
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not all certificates are worht the paper they are printed on. I would recommend the Cambridge CELTA or Trinity courses. They are guaranteed to be recognized worldwide and there should be courses available in the Toronto area.
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Skarp



Joined: 22 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trinity courses are slightly better and more practical in general - Cambridge ones can be more prestigious sounding but are harder (more academic) and no better.

If you are doing a course make it easy for yourself - get the books they recommend and read them/do the tasks in them at least one month before teh course starts.

Clear away ALL personal stuff and do not have ANY distractions during the course - it will be full time, 60+ hours a week.

Don't fight the course content - just accept it - it's what they want and mostly it does make sense but it will be strange and your mind will rebel against the material.

Expect to get bad feedback on your observed teaching. Experience in Korea or most places will not help you - just do what they tell you.


People who are flexible and work damn hard find TEFL certs straightforward and rewarding. But most people are neither so the course can be stressful and 'just a rubber stamp'.


Good luck doing the cert - don't go for the cheapest place either, try and get a recommendation from a past student. I would recommend teh Language project in Bristol UK. By no means cheap but a well put together course that will be worth the money. Avoid any course that costs less than 800 pounds - you won't get value for money.


Skarp
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may find the following threads useful:

TESOL/TEFL/CELTA certificates

1. TESOL Certification in Thailand
2. TESOL Online
3. Benefits of Getting CELTA Certified in Thailand?
4. TESOL Certification
5. Low Down on TEFL International? Whats the scoop?
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am looking for a CELTA, TEFL, or similar certificate program. I do not want to do an online course. I want to do it in Korea, in the summer, preferably outside of Seoul. I would also be more interested in a Young Learners certificate.

Any suggestions?
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Ghostinthemachine



Joined: 22 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skarps advice is excellent, you'd do well to follow it. It's a lot cheaper to do the course in Ireland tho'. I did mine in The language institute of Ireland on Kildare st., Dublin 2. They provide a RELSA TEFL certificate that is highly regarded in europe (equivalent to the British RSA one). There were four english students on my course cos even tho' they had to pay for accomodation it was still cheaper to doing it in England (800 pounds sterling as opposed to 300 euro)
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like a good program, but I am looking for one in Korea.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skarp's advice is good except for one part:
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Trinity courses are slightly better and more practical in general - Cambridge ones can be more prestigious sounding but are harder (more academic) and no better.


If he's saying Trinity and RSA courses are on about the same level, he's right, judging by their reputations. But these two, and possibly those offered by TEFL International, are better than most other short courses.

Click on the "teacher training forum" link at the very top of this page for more about these different programs. Warning - RSA vs Trinity vs T'Intl holy wars rage eternally over on that board.

Kind of like whiner vs apologist over here.

Oigirl - are you absolutely sure you want to do it in Korea? There are sensible, logical and practical reasons to do it in Thailand...
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the ongoing information. I don't really care which certificate I get. I just want the paper. I am a licensed ESL teacher in several states in the US.
The Lemon wrote:
Oigirl - are you absolutely sure you want to do it in Korea? There are sensible, logical and practical reasons to do it in Thailand...

I realize that, and it may come to that someday, but right now I want to spend the time in Korea...
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