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Airbus A380 tail skid is scary
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Airbus A380 tail skid is scary Reply with quote

http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/saymehan/1173

Can anyone interpret that? Lots of big words I can't get the gist of. Is this a problem with all A380's?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of doubt it would be declared air worthy if that was on the production models. For all I know it was test of the plane loaded tail heavy.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That video is from flight testing when they were writing the operational manuals for future pilots. The 'tail skid' test is standard; and is done on purpose to see just how 'sharply' the aircraft can take off without causing damage.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A380 is quite amazing technology.

Makes one wonder how tail damage could affect flight safety.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The funny thing is that they do massive million dollar tests for events that when they do happen in life seldom mean anything to safety - this is more an expense issue.
Gotta watch loose bolts. Those are a major cause.
The weak point I believe of the 380 is the wheel undercarriage. That seemed to be one of the final stumbling blocks for it. One that was quickly remedied but not convincingly.
Put this down in writing, as said on this day, as a prediction for a major within this decade.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ, I hate flying.
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tomwaits



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Location: PC Bong

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off topic but have you seen the video of 1st class on these things?

Whoa--like swish bachelor pad in the air-plasma tv mini-bar sofa bed thing. Crazy and not THAT expensive compared to bus class on other flights. It's the future of air travel It;s somewhere on Singapore Air sight.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is not exclusive for the 380. All looooong aircraft have similar properties - notalbly stretched DC-8, A340 etc.
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tomwaits



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is exclusive. You are just typing off the top of your head and are wrong.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomwaits wrote:
Yes it is exclusive. You are just typing off the top of your head and are wrong.


Eh? Where do you get your information from?

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_04/textonly/tr01txt.html
Quote:
Tail strike, which occurs when an airplane tail contacts the runway during takeoff or landing, is an event that can be encountered by virtually all transport airplane designs. Some models in the Boeing commercial airplane fleet experience tail strike more often than others and, almost without exception, the cause is elusive to the flight crew.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomwaits wrote:
Yes it is exclusive. You are just typing off the top of your head and are wrong.


This page http://www.pprune.org/forums/search.php?searchid=2262511is the result of a search on "tail strike" on the pilots' board.
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wking



Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tail skid test is performed on ALL jets. It is performed to simultate a 'hard' landing or take-off.

Now ask me about Airbus using aluminium as opposed to copper wiring in their planes!

The A380's will start dropping from the skies in about 10 years...
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, what is not exclusive, tail-skid or plasma tv mini-bar sofa bed class?
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wking wrote:
The tail skid test is performed on ALL jets. It is performed to simultate a 'hard' landing or take-off.

Now ask me about Airbus using aluminium as opposed to copper wiring in their planes!

The A380's will start dropping from the skies in about 10 years...


No, why don't you ask Boeing about aluminium wiring in their 787's ... http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787family/programfacts.html

You expect the 787s to "start dropping from the skies in about 10 years"?
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wking



Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
wking wrote:
The tail skid test is performed on ALL jets. It is performed to simultate a 'hard' landing or take-off.

Now ask me about Airbus using aluminium as opposed to copper wiring in their planes!

The A380's will start dropping from the skies in about 10 years...


No, why don't you ask Boeing about aluminium wiring in their 787's ... http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787family/programfacts.html

You expect the 787s to "start dropping from the skies in about 10 years"?

Is this what you are talking about?

787 vs. 777 on composites and aluminum (by weight)
787
- 50 percent composites
- 20 percent aluminum

777
- 12 percent composites
- 50 percent aluminum
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