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JMO
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 Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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my point is that she is the most gagged in history, and is willing to talk to MSM.
Why hasn't anyone taken her up on her offer considering her gag order status...seems juicy to me.
But yeah, she needs to get past this hurdle and do something else.
Blog it...or share info with certain government officials.
You are right though, it will develop if indeed it is so gaggable (?sp??).
So far not by the mainstream media though. That was after all my point. |
Yes but this hardly illustrates that the CIA/FBI is capable of gagging all the mainstream media or even this one person. For a grand conspiracy to be kept secret they would need to control all the media. This lady only has to start a blog and she can reveal whatever evidence she has. Also the Vanity Fair(msm) seemed to contain all the accusations she made. It was also written after that blog entry of the current situation.
In fact this case seems to show how powerless the FBI is to stop a self proclaimed whistleblower. |
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loose_ends
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| loose_ends wrote: |
my point is that she is the most gagged in history, and is willing to talk to MSM.
Why hasn't anyone taken her up on her offer considering her gag order status...seems juicy to me.
But yeah, she needs to get past this hurdle and do something else.
Blog it...or share info with certain government officials.
You are right though, it will develop if indeed it is so gaggable (?sp??).
So far not by the mainstream media though. That was after all my point. |
Yes but this hardly illustrates that the CIA/FBI is capable of gagging all the mainstream media or even this one person. For a grand conspiracy to be kept secret they would need to control all the media. This lady only has to start a blog and she can reveal whatever evidence she has. Also the Vanity Fair(msm) seemed to contain all the accusations she made. It was also written after that blog entry of the current situation.
In fact this case seems to show how powerless the FBI is to stop a self proclaimed whistleblower. |
can you link me to the vanity article.
thanks. |
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JMO
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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ah sorry, here it is..
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9774.htm
i got the date wrong as it is actually from 2005..i looked at the date it had been 'retrieved' instead. It contains a general overview of her allegations. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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thanks lemme take a look at it. |
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loose_ends
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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On top of the usual prohibition against disclosing classified information, the Bush administration has smothered her case beneath the all-encompassing blanket of the �state-secrets privilege��a Draconian and
rarely used legal weapon that allows the government, merely by asserting a risk to national security, to prevent the lawsuits Edmonds has filed contesting her treatment from being heard in court at all. |
the vanity article doesn't give any specific details because at the time, she was following her gag-order.
However she recently told MSM outlets via BRADBLOG that she would give ALL details and risk punishment.
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Remember the exclusive story you aired on Sibel Edmonds, originally on October 27th, 2002, when she was not allowed to tell you everything that she heard while serving as an FBI translator after 9/11 because she was gagged by the rarely-invoked "States Secret Privilege"? Well, she's still gagged. In fact, as the ACLU first described her, she's "the most gagged person in the history of the United States of America."
But if you'll sit down and talk with her for an unedited interview, she has now told The BRAD BLOG during an exclusive interview, she will now tell you everything she knows.
Everything she hasn't been allowed to tell since 2002, about the criminal penetration of the FBI where she worked, and at the Departments of State and Defense; everything she heard concerning the corruption and illegal activities of several well-known members of Congress; everything she's aware of concerning information omitted and/or covered up in relation to 9/11. All of the information gleaned from her time listening to and translating wire-taps made prior to 9/11 at the FBI. |
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5197
so it seems she is willing to TELL EVERYTHING now.
if only a MSM outlet would do an interview.
this must be newsworthy? right?
the article ends with a challenge to MSM
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So whaddaya say 60 Minutes? We've given you scoops before that you ended up turning down --- and likely later regretted. Will you be smart enough to take this one?
"You put me on air live, or unedited. If I'm given the time, I will give the American people the exact reason of what I've been gagged from saying because of the States Secrets Privilege, and why it is that I'm the most gagged person in the history of the United States."
"My feeling is that none of them have the guts to do that," she dared them, before charging, "they are all manipulated." |
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JMO
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Why does she not put her info on the brad blog?
It also seems to imply that a whistleblower on a 911 conspiracy would at the most have a gag order put on them. She is a whistleblower, sure, but we don't really know anything else. She hasn';t told her story yet and it is quite possible that a mainstream outlet will pick it up. Even if they don't, there could be other reasons.
This does go to show how weak large conspiracies are as there always people like her who are willing to talk. Especially in the internet age when it can be on a blog immediately. If there is a 911 conspiracy, the conspirators would have to be very powerful to keep it under wraps.
What is odd about this is she seemed to get a lot of press before she said she was willing to talk..is it possible she is waiting for the best offer for her story? Or the best outlet? |
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loose_ends
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
Why does she not put her info on the brad blog?
It also seems to imply that a whistleblower on a 911 conspiracy would at the most have a gag order put on them. She is a whistleblower, sure, but we don't really know anything else. She hasn';t told her story yet and it is quite possible that a mainstream outlet will pick it up. Even if they don't, there could be other reasons.
This does go to show how weak large conspiracies are as there always people like her who are willing to talk. Especially in the internet age when it can be on a blog immediately. If there is a 911 conspiracy, the conspirators would have to be very powerful to keep it under wraps.
What is odd about this is she seemed to get a lot of press before she said she was willing to talk..is it possible she is waiting for the best offer for her story? Or the best outlet? |
I often wonder the same thing. There are more whistleblowers out there too. Not saying anyone has smoking gun evidence but people have blown whistles already. I could get you a list if you are interested.
I think the problem is that the whistleblowers don't get rewarded for blowing the whistle. Instead they get fired, gagged, and threatened. So it probably keeps a lot of others from speaking up.
I think Sibel is waiting for MSM outlet to give her an interview because the courts are ignoring her now. This needs the attention that alternative news sources don't generate. She litterally wants everyone to know what she knows.
I think I would do the same.
But, this does serve as an example...? no? |
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