Korean Job Discussion Forums

[Dragonfly]

I think this whole "ass-man" thing is a fad. Tah-tahs rule.

[Big_Bird]

[potin14p]

1) Gay Marriage: for
(2) Abortion: pro-choice. it's nobodys business but your own
(3) 9/11 Conspiracy: don't care.
(4) Legalizing Marijuana: against
(5) Global Warming: we need to get off our asses and do something serious about it. the evidence is overwhelming, and future generations will have to bear the consequences.
(6) Legalizing Prostitution: hhhmm, they did this back home in NZ. While it provides more protection for the women involved, its saying that buying a women's "services" is still okay. so my vote is: undecided until i do some research
(7) Health Care: public, and subsized.
(8 ) Church & State: absoutely separate. none of that "they're separate but I'm still going to heavily promote abstinence-only policies in school because of my religious beliefs, and refuse to fund overseas NGOs that offer sexual and reproductive health services" crap.
(9) War on Terrorism: get out of Iraq. having said that, its going to be difficult...
(10) Ass-man or Breast-man: n/a

[endo]

[Funkdafied]

[Pluto]

[Manner of Speaking]

[quote="endo"]Alright Current Events Posters, let's throw down the gauntlet and state where you stand on the following issues.


(1) Gay Marriage - I first heard this seriously proposed in Canada about 15 years ago. At the time I was uncomfortable with the idea of gay marriage, but I matured.

Somebody needs to write a good guide of what to do/buy/etc./ when you're invited to a gay marriage.

Abortion - pro-choice. The technology should be developed that would allow men to shut off sperm production, other than a "male birth control pill"

(3) 9/11 Conspiracy - covered.


(4) Legalizing Marijuana - for personal consumption. You should be able to grow and consume your own.


(5) Global Warming - bigger than anything else.


(6) Legalizing Prostitution - legalizing and regulating is ok.


(7) Health Care - I assume you mean a national health insurance system? Already have it.


(8 ) Church & State - I think religions can have a role in suggesting moral guidance to a society and publically stating and advocating general moral principles. But they should not be involved in politics.


(9) War on Terrorism - there hasn't been one. There's been a "war on terror" which translates as "war on freedom of opinion and thought"


(10) Ass-man or Breast-man - I have to choose?

[VanIslander]

(1) Gay Marriage
The everyday relationship-based legal issues of child custody, property ownership and family leave and benefits are real, concrete and important to address by the institution of civil unions. The issue of the word 'marriage' is a battle I don't see myself part of between a religious definition and an all-inclusive attempt by the LGBTs at social acceptance (instead of just tolerance under a civil union banner).

(2) Abortion
Overturning Roe vs. Wade would give each American state the right to pursue a pro-life or pro-choice path, leading to abortion tourism, women travelling to other states to get the procedure done. The right of the unborn to be born supersedes a woman's right to choose what to do with her body once the fetus has reached the point where it can survive on its own outside the body, hence third trimester abortions is a wrongful killing, ie. a kind of murder. The technological possibility of removing and storing a fetus at an early stage of development might resolve the main moral dilemma about abortion as murder, though it'd introduce a secondary issue of treatment and condition, a woman's right to choose to remove without killing a first-term fetus is stronger than a fetus' claim to her womb as the vehicle of growth and birth (a la test tube babies, surrogate mothers).

(3) 9/11 Conspiracy
There are conspiracies in the world, from the playground to the manager's office to the political arena, and the CIA, to cite one big example, makes a living at covert planning, lies and deception. I think it's obvious that there was some foreknowledge of the possibility/threat and that some capitalized on it, from the those who took out insurance on the towers and ensured a complete write-off afterwards to those in government who see the neo-con agenda as profitable for them and their associates. Do I believe it was a false flag? A look at history makes me think it might have been but I wouldn't say it probably was, and certainly am not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. But there are plenty of questions unanswered and what I have observed in my own life (things happening around me) has taught me that people will do many underhanded things for money and power.

(4) Legalizing Marijuana
I have seen the devastation that alcohol plays in the lives of many I know, and yet even though I come from a marijuana-popular province of Canada, B.C., I have only seen two negative consequences of smoking that particular mind-altering substance: loss of career ambition and hard work by some and an accidental long walk off of a short pier (that was fatal) for another. Given the vast differences in societal attitudes even between neighbouring provinces, a move to decriminalize pot by making it a misdemeanor instead of a felony to be in possession of small amounts is a good thing if implemented on a provincial or even municipal level. If the feds get involved - either way - it becomes too much about social engineering: the tail should not wag the dog on this one. A lack of enforcement already exists in many B.C. communities because of community standards (mayors even have gotten elected by confessing they smoked marijuana when they were young). I don't believe it is inherently a gateway drug but its illegality actually leads to a criminal culture of substitution and experimentation. I myself grew up without ever smoking it because as a child of an alcoholic I saw no difference between it and alcohol in terms of its effects: it changes people's minds. I didn't like anything that did that. It wasn't until I went to one of my M.A. professor's house parties in the province of Ontario that I inhaled it secondhand and felt its effects, indeed we stopped off afterwards at Tim Horton's for doughnuts. Haven't inhaled it since, but what someone wants to do with their body is their business, as long as the freedom of others aren't being infringed: the liberty principle.

(5) Global Warming
OMFG a decade ago I would have considered myself part of environmentalism as indeed there are many legit concerns, but the SPECIFIC issue of global warming is wrongheaded. People are attributing storms and other weather events in their lives as related to global warming, under some sort of naive illusion that weather fluctuations isn't natural but is manmade. PERHAPS there is some connection sometimes, but maybe not. Events in our lives like floods and typhoons and snowstorms are just that. They are not signs of global warming unless you take it on faith or theory, as the cult-like and now religious-like convictions are becoming. Human actions ARE making the earth warmer, at a base level I buy that and weather extremes might be a part of the equation somehow to some degree though when and where isn't so obvious and the CONSEQUENCES of global warming per se AREN'T so catastrophic by many projections: the changes are relatives slow, yeah a percentage will suffer because of rising sea levels and temperature averages and economic changes... but it ain't no Armaggedon folks! I am MUCH more concerned with the pollution of our environment for our health (us humans in terms of cancer growth and to other species loss) than with changes in temperature, weather and sea levels of climate change.

(6) Legalizing Prostitution
Prostitution is NOT illegal in Canada. What you do with your own body is your own business, not the state's. Solicitation on the street and in public is. There are escort agencies and they are legal but expensive. I see nothing wrong with the way things are there except in relation to streetwalkers and the drugs, theft, assaults and other crimes associated with peddling their wares on the street. Would having bordellos legalized end that practice? No. Getting the prostitutes off the streets in terms of a political solution ought not to be throwing them in jail but getting them healthcare, job training and other support services.


(7) Health Care
Everyone gets basic healthcare in Canada but the problem is with wait times and availability of some medical services. I don't believe privatization is the solution on a system wide level as profit to shareholders should not determine access and treatment levels. But contracting out is a good thing, of services to private clinics, professionals and equipment companies for limited periods of time, at which point contracts would be renewed based on performance standards. This would avoid the HMO profit-calculating American fiasco in healthcare.


(8 ) Church & State
The American Constitution in its greatness keeps these two things apart, as should be, for the freedom of all to practice religion as they see fit without infringing on the liberty of others to do as they like. The Islamic world doesn't understand this, and probably never will.

(9) War on Terrorism
A Bush Administration term. I don't use it. A war on an -ism is an absurd if not laughable endeavour. But I guess the Cold War with the Soviets was seen as a war against communism. But these days we conflate the ideology with the individuals with the society, as if extreme acting terrorists and protesting concerns of Islamists are one and the same and different than the Islamic countries, but only sometimes, when interests align or do not. It's all folly. After 9/11 those responsible should have been considered CRIMINALS and treated as such, instead of inflaming and creating new legions of terrorists in the face of the perceived injustices and transgressions of the war machine in the name of fighting "terrorism". Fighting terror with terror just makes more terrorists. Who said fight fire with fire? It just makes more fire.

(10) Ass-man or Breast-man
It's all about the eyes specifically and face in general, as a necessary and sometimes sufficient condition of attractiveness for me. Btw, a squatting Korean woman just looks like she wants to take a dump, doesn't have much of a butt anyways and they don't have much in terms of chest size to speak of, so for those who like Korean women perhaps 'Legs-man' might have been a wise option to have.