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CNN's Michael Ware Biatch-slaps John McCain!
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loose_ends wrote:
Kuros wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
Kuros wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
I might vote for McCain in the CA primary. That's assuming he's still in it by February.


You're registered GOP?


while you are on the subject.

can someone become a registered GOP in a relatively short time frame?


I wouldn't waste any time.

http://www.gop.com/RegisterToVote/


so one could potentially become a GOP to try to vote a candidate in. If that candidate doesn't win but then decides to become an independent, that same person could vote for that person as an independent...right?


I think the so called Reagan Democrats did something similar to that.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pluto wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
Kuros wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
Kuros wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
I might vote for McCain in the CA primary. That's assuming he's still in it by February.


You're registered GOP?


while you are on the subject.

can someone become a registered GOP in a relatively short time frame?


I wouldn't waste any time.

http://www.gop.com/RegisterToVote/


so one could potentially become a GOP to try to vote a candidate in. If that candidate doesn't win but then decides to become an independent, that same person could vote for that person as an independent...right?


I think the so called Reagan Democrats did something similar to that.


Whatever your registered party affiliation is, you may vote in the General Election as you please.

So if you voted Ron Paul as a Republican, and he ran as an independent in the general election, you may absolutely vote for him twice.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
I might vote for McCain in the CA primary. That's assuming he's still in it by February.


You're registered GOP?


No, democrat but i have to re-register anyway since I've moved. You can also change your party affiliation up to 2 weeks prior to the election here in CA.

Considering I've changed my opinion numerous times in the past couple months, who knows who I'll end up voting for. Smile
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're cute, loose_ends. As a resident of Vancouver, you are presumably a Canadian citizen and ineligible for voting in the US. Sorry for the bad news. However, given the history of recent elections the GOP may well be happy to have your support, albeit illegal.

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can someone become a registered GOP in a relatively short time frame?


No, no matter where you are a citizen, you cannot 'become a registered GOP'. One person cannot be a party. Two's company and three's a crowd. I think you probably need two buddies to register as a party. Hint: GOP is short for 'Grand Old Party', a name that evolved out of 'Grand Army of the Republic' back when pretty much all GOP members really were veterans of the Grand Army of the Republic.

You COULD however, get a phoney driver's license and sneak across the border to Washington State and register as a Republican (GOP is their nickname).

ELIGIBILITY :

To register in Washington you must:
� be a citizen of the United States
be a legal resident of Washington State, your county and precinct for 30 days immediately preceding the election in which you want to vote� be at least 18 years old by election day
� not be convicted of infamous crime, unless restored to civil rights.

Washington State's primary is set for Feb. 19, so yes, you do need to hurry. Each state has different residency regulations, but many only require a mailing address. Check out Washington's specific laws regarding this.

THEN...

On Feb. 19 you can sneak back in, vote for Ron Paul in your precinct (or any other Republican) then go home.

That vote will not bind you in the General Election next November. You can vote for whomever you choose after you sneak back in.

In all this border crossing, you will want to be sure to empty your pockets of an controlled substances first. The US rather frowns on smuggling while on an illegal voting mission.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone else feel sorry for John McCain. Here is a man of personal integrity, courage and honor, trapped in a party that won't nominate him unless he campaigns to the right, giving up the characteristics that earned him the respect of a majority of Americans.

He should have said YES to that rumor of an offer from Kerry making him his VP candidate. He would have gone down in history as a healer and a great man. As it is, he'll be lucky to be a footnote.
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
He should have said YES to that rumor of an offer from Kerry making him his VP candidate. He would have gone down in history as a healer and a great man. As it is, he'll be lucky to be a footnote.


I was thinking the same thing just yesterday. He would have been in the White House now if he had done that. Edwards and Kerry had absolutely no chemistry together and it showed. McCain seems to have exceptionally bad judgment in always making sure to jump on a sinking ship just before it starts to go down. Iraq War's popular, criticize it. Starting to lose support, jump ship and support the war. Big chance to win the presidency on a unity ticket, stay back and support Bush and hope for the best.

I think he's a good guy originally and would have had a great eight years as president if he had gotten the nomination in 2000. Some people are just tragic figures.
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Masta_Don



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
Kuros wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
I might vote for McCain in the CA primary. That's assuming he's still in it by February.


You're registered GOP?


No, democrat but i have to re-register anyway since I've moved. You can also change your party affiliation up to 2 weeks prior to the election here in CA.

Considering I've changed my opinion numerous times in the past couple months, who knows who I'll end up voting for. Smile


Just did this (although went Libertarian -> Republic). Remember you'll have to factor in the time it takes to send in your signed registration. When will it all be online? Any day now, please.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Masta_Don wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
Kuros wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
I might vote for McCain in the CA primary. That's assuming he's still in it by February.


You're registered GOP?


No, democrat but i have to re-register anyway since I've moved. You can also change your party affiliation up to 2 weeks prior to the election here in CA.

Considering I've changed my opinion numerous times in the past couple months, who knows who I'll end up voting for. Smile


Just did this (although went Libertarian -> Republic). Remember you'll have to factor in the time it takes to send in your signed registration. When will it all be online? Any day now, please.


Yeah, did it last night, so I should be ok.
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
McCain has my support as well. And Michael Ware makes me physically nauseous.


Because you can't handle anything other than a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, plastic-surgery-enhanced face with the bog standard middle American accent reporting your news, or because he is one of the more courageous journalists around today who has spent four years in the thick of the action in Iraq?
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
sundubuman wrote:
McCain has my support as well. And Michael Ware makes me physically nauseous.


Because you can't handle anything other than a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, plastic-surgery-enhanced face with the bog standard middle American accent reporting your news, or because he is one of the more courageous journalists around today who has spent four years in the thick of the action in Iraq?


Exactly. I think it's hard for some people to identify with real humans when they somehow make it onto network TV. Just watch CNN when they cut to the American CNN, it is the most vacuous, plastic, soul-deadening bunch of barbie and ken dolls. God, the way they talk in their earnest way, trying their darndest to appear "anchorish", makes my flesh crawl. And they aren't half as bad as FOX news.
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stevemcgarrett



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blase wrote:

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Michael Ware is the best field journalist out there, and this is absolutely classic television. Oh, McCain, you really oughta know better...


NEWS FLASH!

That's real slick, even slicker than Slick Willy himself.

The video is from "The Situation Room" with Blitzer. It originally aired in late March of this year.

So you can drop the pretense that this is current news.

What I dislike about Ware is his tone: he's a retired rugby player whose nose turns left, literally and figuratively, every time he talks about Iraq. Is he knowledgable about the conflict? Yes, he is. Is he the defining source for all coverage? No.

McCain was trying to lend support to our effort there so as to give the surge a chance to work--and it is working now to a much larger extent than even some of its proponents predicted.

The problem with Ware is not that he gave McCain a jab in the ribs but that I haven't heard him since admit that things are coming along. He doesn't have an obligation to be optimistic about this new strategy (especially given previously failed ones) but he could at least try to present a more balanced perspective, especially now. Instead he hasn't even begrudgingly admitted to the various successes of the surge, including a shift in search tactics, support for local militias against al-Qaeda, and so on.
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ware played a bit of Rugby....

Big deal! Rolling Eyes

John McCain spent 5 years at the Hanoi School of Hard Knocks!

Case Closed!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
Blase wrote:

Quote:
Michael Ware is the best field journalist out there, and this is absolutely classic television. Oh, McCain, you really oughta know better...


NEWS FLASH!

That's real slick, even slicker than Slick Willy himself.

The video is from "The Situation Room" with Blitzer. It originally aired in late March of this year.

So you can drop the pretense that this is current news.

What I dislike about Ware is his tone: he's a retired rugby player whose nose turns left, literally and figuratively, every time he talks about Iraq. Is he knowledgable about the conflict? Yes, he is. Is he the defining source for all coverage? No.

McCain was trying to lend support to our effort there so as to give the surge a chance to work--and it is working now to a much larger extent than even some of its proponents predicted.

The problem with Ware is not that he gave McCain a jab in the ribs but that I haven't heard him since admit that things are coming along. He doesn't have an obligation to be optimistic about this new strategy (especially given previously failed ones) but he could at least try to present a more balanced perspective, especially now. Instead he hasn't even begrudgingly admitted to the various successes of the surge, including a shift in search tactics, support for local militias against al-Qaeda, and so on.


hold spin room batman.

John McCain said General Betrayus was travelling in an unarmed humvee.

That Americans could walk freely in certain neighborhoods.

Do you want Ware to give him a pat on the back for his inane ramblings?

He's a god damn candidate for president, a senator, and he should bloody well know better.

Christ, you Americans are so blinded by your partisanship, you can never just call out someone. There always has to be strings attached.

Stupid is stupid. period. Do you honestly not get that?
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stevemcgarrett



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blase blurted out:

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Stupid is stupid. period. Do you honestly not get that?


Yeah, I get it, punk. I also get the fact that you sidestepped my accusation about trying to pass off a very dated story as news.

McCain misrepresented the situation on the ground in Baghdad but for the best of reasons: he was going to bat for the brass who had been calling for a surge for years but were dismissed by Rummy.

Regardless, your disrespect for Petraeus makes your indignation ring hollow. It reveals a contempt for the military of the sort MoveOn.org demonstrated.

Stay in Korea; we don't need your type stateside.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
Blase wrote:

Quote:
Michael Ware is the best field journalist out there, and this is absolutely classic television. Oh, McCain, you really oughta know better...


NEWS FLASH!

That's real slick, even slicker than Slick Willy himself.

The video is from "The Situation Room" with Blitzer. It originally aired in late March of this year.

So you can drop the pretense that this is current news.

What I dislike about Ware is his tone: he's a retired rugby player whose nose turns left, literally and figuratively, every time he talks about Iraq. Is he knowledgable about the conflict? Yes, he is. Is he the defining source for all coverage? No.

McCain was trying to lend support to our effort there so as to give the surge a chance to work--and it is working now to a much larger extent than even some of its proponents predicted.

The problem with Ware is not that he gave McCain a jab in the ribs but that I haven't heard him since admit that things are coming along. He doesn't have an obligation to be optimistic about this new strategy (especially given previously failed ones) but he could at least try to present a more balanced perspective, especially now. Instead he hasn't even begrudgingly admitted to the various successes of the surge, including a shift in search tactics, support for local militias against al-Qaeda, and so on.


Yes, thank you Steve. When I was watching that video I thought, "wasn't this in the news months ago?" Things have changed significantly since then.

I found Ware's piece to be as full of spin as McCain. At least McCain is a politician who has his own agenda. Smile

I wonder if Ware feels the same way now.
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