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THOSE MAGNANIMOUS MUSLIMS & THEIR LYING MACHINES
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mosley wrote:
I might disagree about the "good" Westerners could do in the Sudan & Saudi Arabia!


Well, I think there's certainly people in the Sudan who are against the regime and can be educated to respect a global world. As ESLers, we are pro-globalists who try to teach the language of the world to the tribes. There's a bit of creative destruction in our trade, if we are honest with ourselves. But our best students will be best able to handle the global world when they're finished.

Saudi has had too much time in the global world and are still a bunch of lazy, decadents. You may be right: its too late for Saudi.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am gonna frame this moment in ESl Cafe history!! A reply from Steve McGarrett with no witty insults included!!

This will have to be my new wallpaper.


stevemcgarrett wrote:
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If Chinese people say it's a barbaric practice, then why does it keep happening? Who are these people who are commiting gendercide? Foreigners? Is it a big conspiracy?


Most do; some don't. Bribery leads to looking the other way. In some parts life is cheap. Many rural areas are remote and the word of the village or town Party leader holds sway. As the old Chinese saying goes: "The mountains are high and the emperor is far away."

But I will assert this much: in all my travels around Asia I've never found any place where girls are more likely to be favored or at least equally valued as in contemporary urban China, and this includes comparison to Korea. This said, the suicide rate among Chinese females from rural regions (ages 15 to 35) is the highest in the world.

When I become a father, I hope to have at least one daughter--partly to spoil but partly to be spoiled by. Of course, I'll expect her to also earn more of her way in the world as she grows and I'm sure my wife will remind her of the legacy of Mulan and her modern day heiresses.
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