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crazycanuck



Joined: 11 Oct 2003
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: E-2 Rules!!! Korean Consulate Website Reply with quote

For complete rules regarding obtaining an E-2 visa you should contact a Korean Embassy website in your home country. For Canadians here is a link to one of the consulates:

http://www.koreanconsulate.qc.ca/

All E-2 visa applicants and those renewing will apparently have to go through the same process. This includes the EPIK people!!!

WE must obtain a Criminal Background Check!

It seems that the Korean Ministry of Justice didn't factor in the people who are already here and would actually consider staying. The new regulations are completely designed for first time teachers coming to Korea.

If your visa will need to be renewed within the next two months it would make sense if you obtained your new visa before Friday December 14!!!

There are a lot of different stories floating around on this web site. The Ministry of Justice has done a great job of making their new regulations simple, clear, easy to understand, and above all accessible by the very people who it affects. Now who wants to buy the bridge I have for sale? Several translations are out there which are actually spreading the confusion. The Korean bulletin states the local, provincial, or national CRCs would be acceptable. If you visit a Korean Embassy website you will see that this information is incorrect. Furthermore I was told that once I received my CRC I would have to go to the Canadian Embassy to obtain a verification stamp. When I contacted them I was told that they don't do this for these documents.

Having people go through a Criminal Background Check (CRC) is actually a good idea. But where is the plan for people who are already working here and have been here for several years? It takes in excess of 4 months to complete this CRC. I have been here for over 10 TEN years! Most of my co-workers have been here for over 5 years. There are about 30 of us at one university alone.

As the regulations are now, anyone who intended to renew their E-2 visa within the next 4 months is done. If you planned on staying in Korea, pack your bags you are going home. You would have had to apply for the CRC 4-5 months ago.

Recommended solution which others will take credit for:

Shouldn't all instructors currently working in Korea with an E-2 visa be asked to submit a criminal background check without having to fly back to their home country, notarizing the CRC, then validating it at a consulate or embassy? If the document is sealed as are the transcripts wouldn't that be enough???

90 days is an unworkable number for the CRC as we don't really have any idea as to how long it will actually take to obtain the document!!! The RCMP and FBI websites state that it will take longer then 14 weeks!!! Longer could mean five or six months for those that don't quite grasp the English being used here.
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Al Khidr



Joined: 27 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked out your link to the Canadian website, but it specifically states those with current E-2s are exempted as I cut paste below from that website:

. To obtain VISA at the nearest Korean Consulate;
- all applicants, except those who worked previously with an E1, E2, E3 visa in Korea without any illegal activities, must be a Canadian citizen.
- all applicants must have an interview at the consulate by a consul. If applicants are not in the Montreal area, phone interview will be arranged.
- First time applicants (non Canadians) must apply for visas at the Korean Embassy or Consulate in their own countries.

It is becoming clear that those with E-2s in Korea are to a greater or lesser degree (unfortunatley, since there seems to be little uniformity on this form immigration department to the next) are being given some latitude as otherwise there will be NO foreign English teachers with E-2s come end of the winter.
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crazycanuck



Joined: 11 Oct 2003
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4. To obtain VISA at the nearest Korean Consulate;
- all applicants, except those who worked previously with an E1, E2, E3 visa in Korea without any illegal activities, must be a Canadian citizen.
- all applicants must have an interview at the consulate by a consul. If applicants are not in the Montreal area, phone interview will be arranged.

This doesn't remove the CRC from the items listed above it. This sentence actually makes no sense at all. I assume that they are saying that if we worked in Korea previously that we wouldn't have to have an interview.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what they are trying to say is that people who worked here previously can do the visa in Japan (same as before), but the thing is so poorly worded that it's hard to make head or tail of it.

Until they can come with something understandable, you can expect that there will be all kinds of problems with this. Immigration officials can interpret it any way they like, because it is so badly written.

Typical Korean "foresight" in action. Rolling Eyes
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slothrop



Joined: 03 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit

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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slothrop wrote:

so who cares... i mean, how many americans, australians or south africans are hanging around montreal for the seoul purpose of getting an e2 freaking visa?


If that's meant to be a pun apologize now!
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just looked on the Korean consulate in NYC site, they have nothing about the new visa requirements. My daughter called there to ask some questions on Monday, they said "What new visa requirements? What consular interview?"
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crazycanuck



Joined: 11 Oct 2003
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:40 am    Post subject: US embassy no new info Reply with quote

A friend of mine is American. He apparantly called the US embassy in Seoul asking for some information. He said they were quite rude to him and told him they were tired of answering information that had already been posted on their website. So I took a look. They don't even have the transcripts in sealed envelopes regulation posted yet and that was two years ago??? Here is the website with no information:

http://seoul.usembassy.gov/t_visa.html

More information: New Zealanders can apparently obtain a Criminal Records Check within a maximum of 20 working days. The UK supposedly has something similar which takes up to 40 days to obtain. I have yet to find out how long it takes to obtain a records check from Australia. Canadians need to submit an RCMP records check and the Americans need to obtain an FBI records check.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Khidr wrote:
If applicants are not in the Montreal area, phone interview will be arranged.


YEEEEESS!!
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do people keep getting the idea that teachers who are renewing/re-signing i.e. staying at the same job, will have to go through all the new, visa regulation steps?

If you are renewing/re-signing, you DO NOT need a new visa (you're already IN Korea) - your ARC's expiry date is extended for one year from the date of the application.

As for section 4 above, it's crystal clear -
First-time visa applicants who are not Canadian citizens, cannot apply at the Korean embassy or a consulate in Canada. Simple! Rolling Eyes
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blonde researcher



Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont trust any government organization to send something back in time. Prepare for it to be late.

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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Where do people keep getting the idea that teachers who are renewing/re-signing i.e. staying at the same job, will have to go through all the new, visa regulation steps?

If you are renewing/re-signing, you DO NOT need a new visa (you're already IN Korea) - your ARC's expiry date is extended for one year from the date of the application.

As for section 4 above, it's crystal clear -
First-time visa applicants who are not Canadian citizens, cannot apply at the Korean embassy or a consulate in Canada. Simple! Rolling Eyes


I don't think people who are renewing are asking, it's people who want to change jobs. The rules don't seem very well spelled out if you want to change jobs.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Where do people keep getting the idea that teachers who are renewing/re-signing i.e. staying at the same job, will have to go through all the new, visa regulation steps?

If you are renewing/re-signing, you DO NOT need a new visa (you're already IN Korea) - your ARC's expiry date is extended for one year from the date of the application.

As for section 4 above, it's crystal clear -
First-time visa applicants who are not Canadian citizens, cannot apply at the Korean embassy or a consulate in Canada. Simple! Rolling Eyes


I am hopelessly, utterly confused now. Where do you get that if you are staying at the same job you DON'T have to do the medical/CRC? This is news to both myself and my employer. I don't want to have to go through all this ballache if I don't have to. I've already coughed up 50k and an afternoon for the medical. If it turns out I never had to do all this crap in the first place, I'm gonna scream.
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Scouse Mouse



Joined: 07 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="slothrop"]
crazycanuck wrote:
the way i read it, is anyone who has had an e visa in the past can get their visa at this korean consulate in canada, regardless of their nationality. but if you haven't had a visa in the past, then you must be canadian to get it at the korean consulate in montreal.

so who cares... i mean, how many americans, australians or south africans are hanging around montreal for the seoul purpose of getting an e2 freaking visa?


I am guessing that this wording will be similar on all Korean embassy websites. On the Japanese one, it should say that only first time applicants from Japan can get the Japanese visa, but those americans, Aussies, South Africans and Brits who have had a visa previously can get a new one in Japan.

It makes sense to me... all it means is that peopl switching jobs can do a visa run to wherever they fancy, but first timers must visit the embassy in their home country.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well (in response to "Indytrucks") I think that public school teachers have to pay for their yearly medical exam anyway (at least I had to pay for it this year - I think it was free previously)

Although I've been at the same high school for nearly three years, I've never had a criminal check done - so I need to have that done before I can re-sign.

(I'm sweating the small stuff - like trespass violations when distributing religious literature in mall parking lots...)
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