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twavelingteacher



Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: heating situation in ps Reply with quote

Hi,
How is your heating situation in your school? My school doesn't turn the heat on usually unless it's under 40 degrees or so. My classroom has a small little heater in it that barely keeps my legs warm; it does not have heat pumped in. All other classrooms have either heat pumped in on cold days or bigger oil heaters.
At times I get so cold I have a hard time. My nose, fingers, and toes are cold all day long.

Why they put me in a cold classroom all day makes no sense to me. At times I feel like I am being treated rudely. I just don't know if this is normal. And to me the cold kids deserve a little heat. They shiver too.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sucks, especially if you are the only one without regular heat. You could invest in your own heater (and watch that bastard like a hawk!) or simply wear even more clothing. If you leave the school, mention to them at the end that one reason is the heating factor. They may not realize the day-to-day chill factor adds up in how you rate your school.
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boyne11



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Re: heating situation in ps Reply with quote

twavelingteacher wrote:
Hi,
How is your heating situation in your school? My school doesn't turn the heat on usually unless it's under 40 degrees or so. My classroom has a small little heater in it that barely keeps my legs warm; it does not have heat pumped in. All other classrooms have either heat pumped in on cold days or bigger oil heaters.
At times I get so cold I have a hard time. My nose, fingers, and toes are cold all day long.

Why they put me in a cold classroom all day makes no sense to me. At times I feel like I am being treated rudely. I just don't know if this is normal. And to me the cold kids deserve a little heat. They shiver too.


They did and try to tell me the same thing about their policy of turning on heating only when it's below certain temperature.

I complained to them that i will not stay in a place where i'm freezing cold and sorta threaten to contact the district office about the problem. Then the next day, they brought the gas heater into the teacher's lounge.

Oh and I kinda rubbed it into their face and asked a questions like, "Oh, I guess Korea must be a very poor country since schools can't afford heating for students and teacher..." Laughing

Now the only teacher's lounge that has heating is on my floor so all the other teachers in the school congregate in our teacher's lounge. It's kinda annoying when you have room full of xenophobic Korean teachers probably talking about "why the waygook has the only heating in the school?"

My advice is that you gotta let them know and be firm.
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renzobenzo1



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Suji, Yongin

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had a nightmare with heating issue over the last month.
My office is extremely cold and there is a cut-out part of the wall that connects to the other room which makes it even colder.
At first they tried to tell me I couldn't have the heater on so I told them I was cold and finally they agreed.
The big heating vents in the roof are cold at times for some reason and my one takes a long time to heat up.
I did have another heater next to me but they took it away because they said it was 'broken'. Funny how it was working perfectly one day then they took it out of my office.
So on Friday I took my own heater to school. It doesn't give off much heat but I am very worried abotu my health in that room so any extra heat is a plus.
To give you an indication of how cold it is I sit in there with gloves on and many layers and can still be cold.
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chachee99



Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my classroom is freezing too. Often I teach with my jacket on.
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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Publis school is awesome.
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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were days when I would have preferred an un-heated classroom to the kerosene heater that cranked out toxic fumes all day.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: heating situation in ps Reply with quote

twavelingteacher wrote:
Hi,
How is your heating situation in your school? My school doesn't turn the heat on usually unless it's under 40 degrees or so. My classroom has a small little heater in it that barely keeps my legs warm; it does not have heat pumped in. All other classrooms have either heat pumped in on cold days or bigger oil heaters.
At times I get so cold I have a hard time. My nose, fingers, and toes are cold all day long.

Why they put me in a cold classroom all day makes no sense to me. At times I feel like I am being treated rudely. I just don't know if this is normal. And to me the cold kids deserve a little heat. They shiver too.


something newbies never ask about and aren't really warned about is whether or not they'll have thermostat control in the classroom - usually in hagwons you do, but in ps - watchout

my ps tried to tell me no heat until the OUTSIDE temp was -5 C - that's below freezing for you yanks - i said, fine, turn on the heat, as in NOW, or i'm going home, as in NOW.

they turned on the heat.
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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: heating situation in ps Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
twavelingteacher wrote:
Hi,
How is your heating situation in your school? My school doesn't turn the heat on usually unless it's under 40 degrees or so. My classroom has a small little heater in it that barely keeps my legs warm; it does not have heat pumped in. All other classrooms have either heat pumped in on cold days or bigger oil heaters.
At times I get so cold I have a hard time. My nose, fingers, and toes are cold all day long.

Why they put me in a cold classroom all day makes no sense to me. At times I feel like I am being treated rudely. I just don't know if this is normal. And to me the cold kids deserve a little heat. They shiver too.


something newbies never ask about and aren't really warned about is whether or not they'll have thermostat control in the classroom - usually in hagwons you do, but in ps - watchout

my ps tried to tell me no heat until the OUTSIDE temp was -5 C - that's below freezing for you yanks - i said, fine, turn on the heat, as in NOW, or i'm going home, as in NOW.

they turned on the heat.


backbone. good for you.
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twavelingteacher



Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm usually a really patient person, but I got so cold last week I wore my tennis shoes in the classroom, instead of the socks and sandals. This caused a big sitr. I said that I was tired of being cold all the time. I feel sorry for the students. It makes no sense to me that the schools are so cold. Why don't the parents complain?
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school is great. While it was built in 1942, it has new, heaters/air con. units recessed into the ceiling of each classroom and the staff room. Very Happy Of course , the hallways/stairwells are freezing (or sweltering)... but who cares?
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a near universal here that neither the heat nor the air conditioner will go on unless the temperatures are extreme and the foreign staff are in danger of rioting.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
It is a near universal here that neither the heat nor the air conditioner will go on unless the temperatures are extreme and the foreign staff are in danger of rioting.


Some hagwons might do that, too. Not mine though. There's a big centralized air con/heater in the lobby. Doesn't do much for the classes when we have to close the doors to teach (although it must do something), but we each have electric heaters (and air cons) and they really do the trick. Probably because our classrooms are not huge. On Friday, I didn't even turn the electric heater on though. I just wore my leather jacket. The sun beats in through the window most of the day and warms everything up.

They should be keeping it toasty in your classroom. After all, you're "real" teachers...
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two large ceiling air-con / heaters in my classroom. When I get to work I set them at 28 (for 30 mins) - then I turn them down to about 24. I teach at 20 deg c.

You should just go home if you have no heating. You're not paid to get sick.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ajeossi's think it's very prudent to save gas by not turning on heating. It's a macho thing. Just insist that they turn it on.

Try this tactic........."You know, we Westerners aren't as strong as Koreans about cold. We really need heating. We're weak like that"..........Korean boss will love that and probably turn on the heating.
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