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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea
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I went and looked at all the monitors. Except for some styling and "piano finishes" they are basically all the same TN-type panels. One guy at the PC warehouse told me that the 100-200K difference that you see between monitors is in the base/stand. I.E. heavy stand/pivot stand/shiny stand/"fancy-looking" stand = BIG BUCKS.
That being said, I bought a cheap Alphascan with a boring stand/base and I couldn't be happier. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Superhero -- Did you get them yet? Which model(s) and how do you like them?
The rest of you -- C'maaan, suggest something! Personal product reviews, what to steer clear of, anything!! Yet another weekend passes and I still haven't pulled the trigger.  |
I'm going shopping on December 17th. I haven't made a decision yet and will probably leave it until I'm on the shop floor as I'm not exactly sure how much money I will have left for monitors. Will post a thread once I get the new system up and running. |
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xenok
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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to answer the question regarding the lack of 23" screens, the size is usually fixed by the market leader. once the market leader decides to cut the glass at a given size, then pretty much everyone follows.
the initial sizing is somewhat arbitrary from my understanding, there's not particular technical reason why 1920x1200 WS monitors have to be size at 24" and not 23"; but once that decision is made, there isn't a strong economic reason to accommodate several sizes for one resolution so most manufacturers will stick with whatever they started out making in the first place. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: 22"? 24"? Ha!!! |
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The search is over, the purchase done. So...
SUCK ON THIS, NUT-LICKERS!!
I could blow that up to actual size, but what's the point? Your puny little girly-man monitors are too diminutive to show it all!
37 BIG INCHES of otherworldly digital delight in all its 2560 x 1600-pixel majesty, courtesy of a top-of-the-line LG-Philips panel. Lookit that! SIX browser windows, big and readable, ON ONE SCREEN!
Whazzat? Dual- or triple-monitor setups? Ha! Those are for luddites, cranks, drifters and hobos!!
Take a tip from the Guru, kids: Go open-frame LCD/TFT and pay as little as 1/2 to 1/3 what you would for a 30", 32" or 37" monster from LG or Samsung. Oh, and for you Technology Forum regulars, a monitor like this means you can throw away your penis-enlargement kits. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Your man-sized monitor has justly subdued me, Guru. I'm less of a man now.
What does 'open-frame LCD/TFT' mean? How is your new mega-monitor so much cheaper? |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| Your man-sized monitor has justly subdued me, Guru. I'm less of a man now. |
Yes we are all hiding in the dark now that the guru's gigantic monitor has blocked out the sun. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| Gotta Yonsong link for that, Guru? |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
Your man-sized monitor has justly subdued me, Guru. I'm less of a man now.
What does 'open-frame LCD/TFT' mean? How is your new mega-monitor so much cheaper? |
It is an emasculating sight to behold. My voice raises an octave every time I'm in the same room with this monitor.
What's an open-frame LCD/TFT? Pretty much just what the name suggests, it's the panel minus the bezel, the case, the stand, and I think the chassis. http://www.alptech.de/industrie_monitore.htm Generally for industrial/commercial use, say for airports, bus terminals, subway stations, banks, showrooms -- wherever you'd want a display but you've got your own housing for it and there's no need or space for the whole stand, bezel, etc.
The panels can be anything from no-names to the big names. http://www.alptech.de/Datenblatt/DOS-40.pdf
For home/office consumer users like us, however, we need the panel buyers to cobble it together, give us some options in terms of I/O ports, throw in a plain but sturdy stand, and we're on our way.
Why is it so much cheaper? From what I've heard and what I can guess, it's because these vendors procure their LCD panels through BIG power-buys, and because they're small operators and so don't have Big-Brand-Name overhead costs, ad costs, design costs, R&D costs, A/S costs, nor do they command any badge or brand value to speak of.
And finally, it comes down to simple materials -- the backs of these monitors are kind of crude-looking. More like something I might rig together in my workshop rather than some sexy thing you'd expect to see slithering out of an LG Electronics product catalogue. But then, who looks at the back of their monitor? The front is no-nonsense and trim. And at 30-plus inches, it had better be trim, as the panels alone are DAMN WIDE! |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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If I'm reading correctly we have to make this? You can't buy one here?  |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
| Your man-sized monitor has justly subdued me, Guru. I'm less of a man now. |
Yes we are all hiding in the dark now that the guru's gigantic monitor has blocked out the sun. |
Got nowhere to run to, baby,
nowhere to hide 
It is scary-big. I tried hiding behind my chair and diving under the desk, but it always found me. There's just no escaping it.
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| If I'm reading correctly we have to make this? You can't buy one here? |
Jeepers no, Spliff!  This isn't a shop class project here.
As I mentioned previously on this thread, I'd been on the 22"~24" monitor fence for nearly 2 irritating months now and I was just determined to buy one this weekend. We had breakfast with my IT guy yesterday, went online and he showed me pics of his 37" monitor. Right away I naturally assumed that was stupid-big overkill for my needs, and it surely cost way WAY more than I wanted to spend... like by several multiples. Turns out it was an open-frame, and it would cost about what one would pay for a name-brand 22" and 19" dual-monitor setup. And, with only ONE cable and only ONE power cord, would serve the same need and (considering the bases & cables & whatnot) take up provably less desk space than ANY two-monitor configuration I would conceivably have.
I don't have any Yongsan links because I didn't buy it myself (IT guy procured & | | |
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