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Korean human smuggling ring into U.S. from Canada
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charlieDD



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Korean human smuggling ring into U.S. from Canada Reply with quote

And Koreans wonder why the U.S. isn't willing to extend South Korea the same visa waiver it extends Japan.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2007/11/29/11_indicted_on_human_smuggling_charges/
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, dealing with the human trafficking problem is Canada's biggest failure as a nation.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
Yeah, dealing with the human trafficking problem is Canada's biggest failure as a nation.


Why is this Canada's failure? It is up to America to protect it's own borders. Canadian tax-payers should not be paying for American border controls.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's OK with you if Canada is used as a staging point for human trafficking?

Somehow I thought Canadians' committment to human rights went further than 'What you do with those women after you smuggle them to other countries is your business'. Silly me.
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Junior



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is it wrong to smuggle randomly evolved clusters of cells? They're little more than apes, after all.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
How is it wrong to smuggle randomly evolved clusters of cells? They're little more than apes, after all.


I'm pretty sure it's against the law to smuggle any Apes, humans included. I kinda thought the word smuggle..implied illegality.


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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How is it wrong to smuggle randomly evolved clusters of cells? They're little more than apes, after all.


Don't worry, Junior. You don't yet qualify as evolved.
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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember when I was reading a thread on here a few weeks ago where Canadians were really angry about all the Mexicans who were making their way into Canada illegally and this was somehow America's fault. It's really interesting how Canadians always blame the USA for everything, yet when they are directly responsible for something remotely similar, "it's not our problem, it's your problem."

Case in point:

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Why is this Canada's failure? It is up to America to protect it's own borders. Canadian tax-payers should not be paying for American border controls.

Hypocrite.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see how you can call me personally a hypocrite. I never made any mention of the issue you are talking about.

However, if Canada is indeed blaming America for illegal immigrants from Mexico coming into Canada via the United States, then they are wrong to do so. So don't call me a hypocrite for something I have never said.

Back to the topic, however:

America is responsible for it's own border policing. As is Canada.

If America does not want those Koreans to enter illegally, they should take the measures needed to prevent it.

And if Canada does not want those Mexicans to enter illegally, same applies.

Canadian tax-payers are not responsible for enforcing American laws. And vice-versa.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is nonsense. We have a longstanding and very, very important relationship with the United States. We have a responsibility to ensure that Canada is not a staging ground for illegal immigration and they have the same responsibility to us. Both countries will have success and failures but both have to try. Canada must not encourage the mouth breathers in the Republican party to start crying about the northern invasion.
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouth breathers??? as opposed to nose breathers????
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
mouth breathers??? as opposed to nose breathers????


Yeah. It is just a rude way to describe a certain element that every country has. My mother drunk or sober, my country right or wrong. Those types.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepeel wrote:
That is nonsense. We have a longstanding and very, very important relationship with the United States. We have a responsibility to ensure that Canada is not a staging ground for illegal immigration and they have the same responsibility to us.


It's ridiculous to suggest that Canada must pre-enforce other countries' laws.

Again, Canada is not responsible for enforcing American law, especially if no law has even been broken.

Those Koreans are not "illegal" until the moment they set foot on American soil. By then, they are no longer under the jurisdiction of Canada.

If you do not want someone to enter your country, stop them from doing so. Don't rely on your neighbours to subsidize the policies you yourselves put into place.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Those Koreans are not "illegal" until the moment they set foot on American soil. By then, they are no longer under the jurisdiction of Canada.




Does anyone have any information about investing money in human smuggling rings? Since defrauding women, holding their passports, and making false promises of jobs in foreign countries is not illegal in Canada, I think it would make a good investment opportunity.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't be absurd. What do you want Canada to do?

Do a full cavity check of every Asian-looking person in Canada to see whether or not they are illegal Koreans planning on sneaking into America?

What would you suggest Canada do that it is not already doing?

Again, America must protect it's own border. Your border, your responsibility. our border, our responsibility.
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