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Are You Happy To Be An Alien?
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Are you happy to be described as an 'Alien'?
Yes
60%
 60%  [ 26 ]
So-So
18%
 18%  [ 8 ]
No
20%
 20%  [ 9 ]
Total Votes : 43

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ABC KID



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Are You Happy To Be An Alien? Reply with quote

Foreigners in South Korea are described as 'Aliens'.
Are you happy to be described as an 'Alien'?

Yes = You like it/No stress whatsoever etc.

So-So = It's not a great discription but nothing to get too worked up about.

No = Don't like it/Consider it derogatory etc.
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ABC KID



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Japan also describes its foreigners as 'aliens'. I've never heard foreigners in U.K. described as anything other than foreigners/immigrants (except when people have been intentionally insulting) How about other countries for those better travelled than me?
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thatwhitegirl



Joined: 31 Jan 2007
Location: ROK

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Philippines has signs in the Embassy and other places that refer to foreigners as 'aliens'. I remember seeing that as a kid and being surprised and humored...and then feeling a little irked.
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Faunaki



Joined: 15 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Taiwan it's the same thing. You get an Alien Registration Card. At first it bothered me but I've been in Asia for a while now so nothing really seems to anymore.

My favorite:

Today teacher looks like raccoon eye.

Used to piss me off now it makes me laugh.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I felt like an alien in my home country, so yes, I am happy here, and don't feel particularly more alienated.
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Carlyles Ghost



Joined: 04 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first time I was ever called 'foreigner' it felt a little strange. When I learned I would be required to obtain an "Alien" Reg. Card I laughed; the word has such a negative coloring back home. I have never been called an Alien in day to day interaction; the word is a formal policy-type language that, I think, doesn't carry the same weight here as it does at home.
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's the formal way to refer to someone who's visiting / not a native / not a permanent resident. It doesn't have any intentional negative connotations, so I wouldn't sweat it. I've heard it used in the states to refer to 'others' plenty of times.
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renzobenzo1



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Suji, Yongin

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, the first time i got here i found it very offensive, then i got used to it and just joked about it with people.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the same in the US. It's a widely used English term. No big deal.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
It's the same in the US. It's a widely used English term. No big deal.


No, in the US they're called "illegals."
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JustJohn



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Location: Your computer screen

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not the legal ones, silly. I'm pretty sure most of us are here legally.
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw Genesis in Jacksonville back in the 80's before they broke up. Great show. They played this song too.


Got out of bed, wasn't feeling too good
With my wallet and my passport, a new pair of shoes
The sun is shining so I head for the park,
With a bottle of Tequila, and a new pack of cigarettes

I got a cousin and she got a friend,
Who thought that her aunt knew a man who could help
At his apartment I knocked on the door,
He wouldn't come out until he got paid.
Now don't tell anybody what I wanna do
If they find out you know that they'll never let me through, cos

It's no fun being an illegal alien, no
It's no fun being an illegal alien

Down at the office had to fill out the forms
A pink one, a red one, the colours you choose,
Up to the counter to see what they think
They said "it doesn't count man, it ain't written in ink".
I don't trust anybody, least not around here, cos

It's no fun being an illegal alien, I tell ya
It's no fun being an illegal alien, no no no no no
It's no fun being an illegal alien, I mean it when I tell ya that
It's no fun being an illegal alien,
An illegal alien, O.K.

Consideration for your fellow man
Would not hurt anybody, it sure fits in with my plan
Over the border, there lies the promised land
Where everything comes easy, you just hold out your hand

Keep your suspicions, I've seen that look before
But I ain't done nothing wrong now, is that such a suprise
But I've got a sister who'd be willing to oblige
She will do anything now to help me get to the outside

So don't tell anybody what I wanna do
If they find out you know that they'll never let me through, because

It's no fun being an illegal alien, I tell ya
It's no fun being an illegal alien, and it's getting me down
It's no fun being an illegal alien, no no no no no
It's no fun being an illegal alien, yeah yeah yeah

It's no fun (not much fun) being an illegal alien, I tell ya that
It's no fun being an illegal alien, I tell ya
It's no fun being an illegal alien, no no no
It's no fun (not bloody much fun) being an illegal alien,
It's no fun being an illegal alien, and that's what I am.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it's a pretty apt description from the locals' perspective.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
It's the same in the US. It's a widely used English term. No big deal.


No, in the US they're called "illegals."


Not the RESIDENT ALIENS!
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