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Which country in has the worst national identity?
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

renzobenzo1 wrote:
Masta_Don wrote:
Look, I understand you think going after the down-trodden is going to help your game, but it won't. Spend some time on yourself and then the girls will come naturally.


hehe, I gave up on the Korean girls a long time ago.
Discreet 'language exchanges' in bars, movies and restaurants are all I get these days.


It's too bad they don't take place at home. Must be a bit trite. I suppose you could call such a meeting discreet, though it obviously occurs in public.


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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the worst? the one pacific island nation that is gonna get flooded over so NZ promises them all a place to stay.

hard to keep up much national pride knowing you are sunk and to be absorbed.
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Bafsy



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think "National Identity" is a bit of misnomer for the type of nominations the OP is requesting as it typically refers to a nation's "sense of self" - ie. How Brits view Britain, Canadians Canada, etc.

I'd suggest "Which country has the worst national image?" may be a bit more clear.
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renzobenzo1



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bafsy wrote:
I think "National Identity" is a bit of misnomer for the type of nominations the OP is requesting as it typically refers to a nation's "sense of self" - ie. How Brits view Britain, Canadians Canada, etc.

I'd suggest "Which country has the worst national image?" may be a bit more clear.


national image refers to the nation as a whole and not the individual though. Idea
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saudi Arabia.

Can you name a Saudi virtue?
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pugwall



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
I will actually answer the question.

A tie between Iran, Sudan, and Israel.


Iranian's are supposed to be the friendliest and most polite people in the world. Thats all you I ever hear about travelling in Iran, how ridiculously friendly and generous the people are. Thats why I find it strange you have chosen Iran. Sudanese are famously friendly and hospitable as well.
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The_Eyeball_Kid



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Saudi Arabia.

Can you name a Saudi virtue?


It's in the Middle East so plenty out of the way of the civilized world.
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Justin Hale



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In no particular order......

Saudi Arabia because of strict Islamic Law

Israel because of difficulties with the Palestinians, terrorism

Japan because it's seen as a bit humorless and strict

Korea because of dog-eating

Germany because of the Nazis and "no sense of humor"

France because of arrogance

Britain because of bad weather and bad food. I think British food is great, but you know, we're dealing with cliches here, eh?

America because of stupidity, guns, Bush, Iraq, other conflicts, support for Israel, racism and obesity

Canada because it's seen as just like America but less interesting

Pakistan because it actually does simply suck and ditto Bangladesh

Belgium because it's seen as boring

India and China because they've so many people

Russia for being miserable and queueing for bread

South Africa because of Apartheid
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Ilsanman



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...did you hear this or experience this?

I have met a few nice Iranian people, so it may be true....Sudan, I doubt it. Plus (unfortunately) the people are judged by the actions of their government.

pugwall wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
I will actually answer the question.

A tie between Iran, Sudan, and Israel.


Iranian's are supposed to be the friendliest and most polite people in the world. Thats all you I ever hear about travelling in Iran, how ridiculously friendly and generous the people are. Thats why I find it strange you have chosen Iran. Sudanese are famously friendly and hospitable as well.
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travel zen



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was travelling through India by myself and one kid selling pop asks:

"Are you American?"

I said yes. He said "Aren't you afraid of travelling alone here?" His father shushed him up before I could ask what he meant. Very Happy

Right now, I say Americans ain't doing too good.
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pugwall



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
Hmm...did you hear this or experience this?

I have met a few nice Iranian people, so it may be true....Sudan, I doubt it. Plus (unfortunately) the people are judged by the actions of their government.

pugwall wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
I will actually answer the question.

A tie between Iran, Sudan, and Israel.


Iranian's are supposed to be the friendliest and most polite people in the world. Thats all you I ever hear about travelling in Iran, how ridiculously friendly and generous the people are. Thats why I find it strange you have chosen Iran. Sudanese are famously friendly and hospitable as well.


I've met both. My Lonely Planet middle east and I quote ' Spending a few weeks with the Iranian people will redefine hospitality as you know it'. They have institutionalised hospitality under the name of 'Taarof'. When I was researching travelling there all I read was how friendly people were. Sudanese are seen as some the friendliest of Arabs by other Arabs. What are you claims based on. They seem so contrary to everything I have heard.

Plus (unfortunately) the people are judged by the actions of their government.



That leaves America and a host of Western countries fucked then.
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mistermasan



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

re: iranians
one of cousins married an iranian. actually, part of the shah's clan US resettled. great guy. the kinda guy you want to cover your back. great husband, father and friend.
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Ilsanman



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are forgetting the OP's question. We're not talking about individual people, but a country's image.

Iran: Nuclear weapon ambitions (real or not) and Rabid Anti-Americanism by their president.

Sudan: Genocide in Darfur. Also dealings with China.



pugwall wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
Hmm...did you hear this or experience this?

I have met a few nice Iranian people, so it may be true....Sudan, I doubt it. Plus (unfortunately) the people are judged by the actions of their government.

pugwall wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
I will actually answer the question.

A tie between Iran, Sudan, and Israel.


Iranian's are supposed to be the friendliest and most polite people in the world. Thats all you I ever hear about travelling in Iran, how ridiculously friendly and generous the people are. Thats why I find it strange you have chosen Iran. Sudanese are famously friendly and hospitable as well.


I've met both. My Lonely Planet middle east and I quote ' Spending a few weeks with the Iranian people will redefine hospitality as you know it'. They have institutionalised hospitality under the name of 'Taarof'. When I was researching travelling there all I read was how friendly people were. Sudanese are seen as some the friendliest of Arabs by other Arabs. What are you claims based on. They seem so contrary to everything I have heard.

Plus (unfortunately) the people are judged by the actions of their government.



That leaves America and a host of Western countries *beep* then.
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jeffkim1972



Joined: 10 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't even understand the question.

"Which country in has the worst national identity?"

I don't know who's dumber, the people coming over here teaching English, or the Koreans hiring them.
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renzobenzo1



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Suji, Yongin

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffkim1972 wrote:
I don't even understand the question.

"Which country in has the worst national identity?"

I don't know who's dumber, the people coming over here teaching English, or the Koreans hiring them.


Oh no. I made a typo. Call the firing squad Rolling Eyes
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