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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Sick days? Reply with quote

have you ever been fired for using your sick days (at a public school)?

and if u have, did they use that as the official reason or find some other?


thanks, i appreciate any useful responses
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Unusual Reply with quote

It is highly unusual, but I have heard of two occasions when foreign teachers were fired for using an excessive amount of sick time. As it turns out one of the people was simply playing hooky from school and the other one was legitimately sick. Both filed a grievance with the labor board, and both were denied any judgment because the schools provided a better case than the foreign teachers. That is my only knowledge of such things regarding the use of sick time. I have had to use sick days for the past two contracts while I was in the hospital and nothing was ever said to me regarding this. Fortunately I am not that sick very often. One hospitalization was for surgery to correct a problem, and the other was the result of a serious accident that was out of my control.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excessive? how much is excessive?
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boyne11



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad-ish wrote:
excessive? how much is excessive?


more than 30 days.

They can't fire you for taking legit sick leave. My sick leaves been all legit. Laughing

They may try to come up with other BS reasons but as long as you stick to your contract, it's nearly impossible for them to fire you.


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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boyne11 wrote:
nomad-ish wrote:
excessive? how much is excessive?


more than 30 days.


are u being serious here?! wow... then i definitely have no reason to worry. thanks

how do they deem it legit or not? i've had my co-teacher come to my apt, but i don't answer the door because i'm in my pjs in bed. thus she thinks i'm lying. if i do answer the door, she'll just tell me i'm not sick enough and to get dressed. it's a fucking catch-22
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't matter what she thinks.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
Doesn't matter what she thinks.


no, but she's the little minion of my VP...
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boyne11



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
Doesn't matter what she thinks.


Exactly!

Just say, "I was sick" and most common types of sickness, "I had headache, stomachache, backache, a cold, a flu, constipation, runs, etc. etc."

And when you return to work, just sign a little sick leave paper.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys!
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad-ish - I cannot believe what you said, I mean about your co-worker having the audacity to tell you to get dressed and go to work, because you're not sick.

I now realize if you are assertive with these people, they do back down, their attitude is all an act.

Here are some ideas for you to consider. Explain that you are genuinely sick and that you'd like to know how to file a complaint with the labor board about harrassment. That may shut up the scumbag.

Tell her you are also thinking of contacting your embassy about this treatment, because back home (wherever that is) we trust people, until they are proven guilty of something.

You could also ask your co-teacher to help you write a complaint against her in Korean, to make it easier for you to submit to the labor board, and please make sure you have an awful, fake smile on your face as you ask Laughing
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Sick days? Reply with quote

nomad-ish wrote:
have you ever been fired for using your sick days (at a public school)?

and if u have, did they use that as the official reason or find some other?


See... contrary to what some teachers like to say, there are such things as stupid questions! Rolling Eyes
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's best not to take sick days unless you're so sick you require hospitalisation. I once almost took a 'sick day' so that I could miraculously recover at 8.30AM and teach my classes instead of going on a provincial waegook parade field trip, but thankfully we found a legitimate excuse to get out of it.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Sick days? Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
nomad-ish wrote:
have you ever been fired for using your sick days (at a public school)?

and if u have, did they use that as the official reason or find some other?


See... contrary to what some teachers like to say, there are such things as stupid questions! Rolling Eyes


obviously u weren't paying attention... some posters in the past have claimed that they were fired for using sick days (or threatened). not a stupid question...at least not in korea it isn't
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope anyone who was fired for using their sick days made their principal and VPs' lives hell with the Labor Board.
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boyne11



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
It's best not to take sick days unless you're so sick you require hospitalisation.


I hope you die before making it to the hospital. Rolling Eyes
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