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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| venus wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| And this is different from the US how? Was Lee Myong Bak responsible for a war that has cost billions of dollars and thousands of innocent lives? Just wondering... |
You missed the point of the post: The point is that Koreans supposedly think money is more important than honesty.
You have Korean ancestors, right?
Why did you point your proverbial finger at the U.S.? What does the U.S. have to do with the citizens of The Republic of Corruption? Anyway, are there any other nations in your mind besides Korea and the U.S.? |
Oh! Come off it Roch! Take your head out of your _____! The US may hold itself up as a beacon of virtue, home of the free etc, but it doesn't practice what it preaches. Too many of you have bought that bullcr@p and have actually started believing it.
Take a good long hard look at how your govt has been acting in the fields of foriegn policy, the UN, helathcare, destroying Iraq and then paying themselves (haliburton et al) to rebuild it at extortionate prices etc and then get back to us and let me know how that honesty / money ratio is working out for ya...
Come on, stop the BS.
At least Koreans expect corruption and throw their hands up to it... they at least practice what they preach! |
Korean,
Answer my questions and stop assuming that every white person is from the U.S. and stop bringing the U.S. into it when someone is talking about Korea and stop thinking that the U.S. is the only country that extols virtues such as honesty, bravery, etc., etc.
Do you hate or dislike whites? Be honest now!!
Have a good day, eh.
Sincerely yours,
Roch |
Ok then, PROVE that he did something illegal. PROVE it, or shut it.
How's that for cutting to the heart of the matter? (and with no need to bring the US into it too) |
Wasn't the video of Lee Myungbag proof enough? |
Media manipulation is easy enough. It's been said that the comments were taken out of context. Why would this video emerge days before an election? Do you think that national prosecutors would miss something so blatantly obvious? Use your head sucker.
You've just got an axe to grind because after the music camp incident, Lee Myung Bak made some stupid comments about blacklisting innappropriate bands. |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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I've talked to numerous taxi drivers AND a few business owners about this. They all favored LMB solely because he is 'a business man'.
Asked whether they trusted him after what's been through the press, they ALL conferred positively.
"but what about the tape?"
It's ok. They replied. I'm not sure if that meant that it was forgiven, or that it was not substantial proof of any wrongdoing.
I took it in a way that all koreans believe businessmen and politicians for that matter are corrupt by nature. HOwever, LMB's track record will benefit the nation more than the other candidates.
I read stats somewhere that Koreans have very little faith in their public officials, and consider corruption to be rampant in society.
It's like it's a given.
If it is, you might as well have some one there who can benefit you where you need it most, even if he's bound to be caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
They still come out ahead. |
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markhan
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think the main reason why some are disagreeing with you is not because you are wrong, but rather, because you seem to "underemphasize" the guilt of some Western politicians. Glaring example is what you claim "ill-thought-out foreign policy." I hardly think that this was merely "ill-thought out" There were many flatout lies that were told by the Bush administration.
To be honest, I am rather disappointed that Lee Myung-bak has won.
But at the same time, I think we should also consider the "state of mind" of particular nation. Case in point, Americans have never expericned the terror of being attacked by a foreign enemy (in mainland) and as such, 9-11 affected a devasting toll on the psyche of many Americans. Hence, it was so easy for Bush to sway gullible and frightned citizens with the warning of "more oncoming terror" including god forbid, nuclear attack. Similar argument could be made with Putin (2007 Time Person of the Year). Instability suffered by Russians in last decade, it is not surprising that they have chosen such a steely, almost "dictator-like" character to be their president. Many of you seem to forget that Korea was a very poor country just a few decades ago. Koreans have extreme fear of "poverty" and hence, it is understanndable why they have chosen Mr. Lee after decade of being ruled by a left-leaning government.
| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
I don't know how many times I have to say this. You are not comparing like for like. We are not talking about tentative links to big business or a questionable foreign policy like the examples you coughed up; A mere few days before the nation went to the polls evidence came to surface which suggests that a presidential candidate was at the centre of a multi-million dollar scam. The evidence clearly shows that Lee Myong Bak lied to prosecutors about the extent of his involvement in the case. This isn't a spurious accusation made in the middle of a presiential term and it cetainly isn't a question of ethics vis a vis an ill-thought-out foreign policy; Lee Myong Bak has been caught brazenly lying about his involvement in an extremely serious charge just days before polls opened! |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Clinton:
I never inhaled.
I never had sex with that woman
He lied under oath in the Paula Jones lawsuit and was disbarred in Arkansas for doing it.
He was impeaches - not convicted.
As I said, a liar and a son of a female dog. No one cared.
Canada a better reputation? Give me a break. I left my keys in the ignition of my car in Korea, never locked my apartment and never lost a thing. In Canada, every time I turn around some slime bag is trying to steal something. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| venus wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| And this is different from the US how? Was Lee Myong Bak responsible for a war that has cost billions of dollars and thousands of innocent lives? Just wondering... |
You missed the point of the post: The point is that Koreans supposedly think money is more important than honesty.
You have Korean ancestors, right?
Why did you point your proverbial finger at the U.S.? What does the U.S. have to do with the citizens of The Republic of Corruption? Anyway, are there any other nations in your mind besides Korea and the U.S.? |
Oh! Come off it Roch! Take your head out of your _____! The US may hold itself up as a beacon of virtue, home of the free etc, but it doesn't practice what it preaches. Too many of you have bought that bullcr@p and have actually started believing it.
Take a good long hard look at how your govt has been acting in the fields of foriegn policy, the UN, helathcare, destroying Iraq and then paying themselves (haliburton et al) to rebuild it at extortionate prices etc and then get back to us and let me know how that honesty / money ratio is working out for ya...
Come on, stop the BS.
At least Koreans expect corruption and throw their hands up to it... they at least practice what they preach! |
Korean,
Answer my questions and stop assuming that every white person is from the U.S. and stop bringing the U.S. into it when someone is talking about Korea and stop thinking that the U.S. is the only country that extols virtues such as honesty, bravery, etc., etc.
Do you hate or dislike whites? Be honest now!!
Have a good day, eh.
Sincerely yours,
Roch |
Ok then, PROVE that he did something illegal. PROVE it, or shut it.
How's that for cutting to the heart of the matter? (and with no need to bring the US into it too) |
Wasn't the video of Lee Myungbag proof enough? |
No.
I can say I'm the chairman of POSCO/MICROSOFT/BBK/SK all I want, if there's no proof, there's nothing legal.
Having a moral obligation and a legal one is quite different. You're a smart enough poster RT, I"m surprised you haven't keyed into this. |
So then why did he say he founded the company, and then later deny having anything to do with it? Which time was he lying? One way he's a lying dirtbag, the other way he's a lying dirtbag who broke the law.
And what kind of proof do you need, DNA evidence? Maybe you've been watching too much CSI. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| crazy_arcade wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| venus wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| And this is different from the US how? Was Lee Myong Bak responsible for a war that has cost billions of dollars and thousands of innocent lives? Just wondering... |
You missed the point of the post: The point is that Koreans supposedly think money is more important than honesty.
You have Korean ancestors, right?
Why did you point your proverbial finger at the U.S.? What does the U.S. have to do with the citizens of The Republic of Corruption? Anyway, are there any other nations in your mind besides Korea and the U.S.? |
Oh! Come off it Roch! Take your head out of your _____! The US may hold itself up as a beacon of virtue, home of the free etc, but it doesn't practice what it preaches. Too many of you have bought that bullcr@p and have actually started believing it.
Take a good long hard look at how your govt has been acting in the fields of foriegn policy, the UN, helathcare, destroying Iraq and then paying themselves (haliburton et al) to rebuild it at extortionate prices etc and then get back to us and let me know how that honesty / money ratio is working out for ya...
Come on, stop the BS.
At least Koreans expect corruption and throw their hands up to it... they at least practice what they preach! |
Korean,
Answer my questions and stop assuming that every white person is from the U.S. and stop bringing the U.S. into it when someone is talking about Korea and stop thinking that the U.S. is the only country that extols virtues such as honesty, bravery, etc., etc.
Do you hate or dislike whites? Be honest now!!
Have a good day, eh.
Sincerely yours,
Roch |
Ok then, PROVE that he did something illegal. PROVE it, or shut it.
How's that for cutting to the heart of the matter? (and with no need to bring the US into it too) |
Wasn't the video of Lee Myungbag proof enough? |
Media manipulation is easy enough. It's been said that the comments were taken out of context. Why would this video emerge days before an election? Do you think that national prosecutors would miss something so blatantly obvious? Use your head sucker.
You've just got an axe to grind because after the music camp incident, Lee Myung Bak made some stupid comments about blacklisting innappropriate bands. |
I have more against Lee Myungbag than just that. How about how he destroyed Dongdaemoon to waste almost a billion dollars constructing a stream, simply to set himself up for a presidential run? How about how he uses Christianity to make himself look decent while being a lying scumbag?
He'll do as great a job at running this country as Kenneth Lay would, another shrewd businessman. |
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SarcasmKills
Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
I have more against Lee Myungbag than just that. How about how he destroyed Dongdaemoon to waste almost a billion dollars constructing a stream, simply to set himself up for a presidential run? How about how he uses Christianity to make himself look decent while being a lying scumbag?
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Whatever his motives, you can't honestly tell me that you think Dongdaemoon was better off with the decaying freeway running through it can you? |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| contrarian wrote: |
| He was impeaches - not convicted. |
Yes, he was cleared on both charges; perjury and obstruction of justice.
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| As I said, a liar and a son of a female dog. No one cared. |
If Clinton had been caught lying about a multi-million dollar scam just days before an election he wouldn't have survived it. Absolutely no chance.
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| Canada a better reputation? Give me a break. I left my keys in the ignition of my car in Korea, never locked my apartment and never lost a thing. In Canada, every time I turn around some slime bag is trying to steal something. |
You need to look at the international transparency rankings.
http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2007
9. Canada
43. South Korea |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| crazy_arcade wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| venus wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| And this is different from the US how? Was Lee Myong Bak responsible for a war that has cost billions of dollars and thousands of innocent lives? Just wondering... |
You missed the point of the post: The point is that Koreans supposedly think money is more important than honesty.
You have Korean ancestors, right?
Why did you point your proverbial finger at the U.S.? What does the U.S. have to do with the citizens of The Republic of Corruption? Anyway, are there any other nations in your mind besides Korea and the U.S.? |
Oh! Come off it Roch! Take your head out of your _____! The US may hold itself up as a beacon of virtue, home of the free etc, but it doesn't practice what it preaches. Too many of you have bought that bullcr@p and have actually started believing it.
Take a good long hard look at how your govt has been acting in the fields of foriegn policy, the UN, helathcare, destroying Iraq and then paying themselves (haliburton et al) to rebuild it at extortionate prices etc and then get back to us and let me know how that honesty / money ratio is working out for ya...
Come on, stop the BS.
At least Koreans expect corruption and throw their hands up to it... they at least practice what they preach! |
Korean,
Answer my questions and stop assuming that every white person is from the U.S. and stop bringing the U.S. into it when someone is talking about Korea and stop thinking that the U.S. is the only country that extols virtues such as honesty, bravery, etc., etc.
Do you hate or dislike whites? Be honest now!!
Have a good day, eh.
Sincerely yours,
Roch |
Ok then, PROVE that he did something illegal. PROVE it, or shut it.
How's that for cutting to the heart of the matter? (and with no need to bring the US into it too) |
Wasn't the video of Lee Myungbag proof enough? |
Media manipulation is easy enough. It's been said that the comments were taken out of context. Why would this video emerge days before an election? Do you think that national prosecutors would miss something so blatantly obvious? Use your head sucker.
You've just got an axe to grind because after the music camp incident, Lee Myung Bak made some stupid comments about blacklisting innappropriate bands. |
I have more against Lee Myungbag than just that. How about how he destroyed Dongdaemoon to waste almost a billion dollars constructing a stream, simply to set himself up for a presidential run? How about how he uses Christianity to make himself look decent while being a lying scumbag?
He'll do as great a job at running this country as Kenneth Lay would, another shrewd businessman. |
Dongdaemun was disgusting. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I was disgusted when all those record stores disappeared. Now the place is just filling up with ugly glass highrises. |
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skeeterses
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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I think the Public back in America supported Clinton mainly because the economy was doing fine and Clinton didn't do anything to rock the boat.
Lee Myeong-Bak wants to make the economy grow at 7% for the next 10 years. And there has been talk about his massive canal idea to connect Seoul to Busan. Given how high Lee's ambitions are, there are no limits to the extents that he will go to if Korea's parliament goes along with all his ideas. If he's looking at China as a model for his "economic growth" plan, I'll be darn scared for the Korean people. I would hate to see Korea get turned into a toxic waste dump like China. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| skeeterses wrote: |
| If he's looking at China as a model for his "economic growth" plan, I'll be darn scared for the Korean people. I would hate to see Korea get turned into a toxic waste dump like China. |
China is a developing economy while Korea's economy is advanced. North Korea might look at China's model for economic growth but South Korea wouldn't. Completely irrelevent. Roh Mu Hyun did a good enough job maintaing a near 5% annual growth rate. Considering Korea is an adavnced economy people shouldn't expect 7% annual growth rate figures. Wild expectations. Maybe in Vietnam but S.Korea? No. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Clinton was impeached by the House and even the Senate voted about 53 to 47 to convict. Since conviction required 2/3rds of the Senate he was aquitted.
His defence was thrown out in the Paula Jones case and political supporters pay the agreed on amount. The state bar of Arkansas disbarreed him as a layer.
Not a paragon of virtue. As far as I am concerned moral issues are just as important as financial ones. Think Richard Nixon his sins were moral an not financial. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Let's see if we can find a moral politician.
Sen. Robert Byrd (The KKK)
Sen Eward Kennedy (Killed Mary Jo)
Sen. Joe Biden (Plagerist)
Somebody help me!
Politicians aren't angels. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| crazy_arcade wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| crazy_arcade wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| venus wrote: |
| Roch wrote: |
| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| And this is different from the US how? Was Lee Myong Bak responsible for a war that has cost billions of dollars and thousands of innocent lives? Just wondering... |
You missed the point of the post: The point is that Koreans supposedly think money is more important than honesty.
You have Korean ancestors, right?
Why did you point your proverbial finger at the U.S.? What does the U.S. have to do with the citizens of The Republic of Corruption? Anyway, are there any other nations in your mind besides Korea and the U.S.? |
Oh! Come off it Roch! Take your head out of your _____! The US may hold itself up as a beacon of virtue, home of the free etc, but it doesn't practice what it preaches. Too many of you have bought that bullcr@p and have actually started believing it.
Take a good long hard look at how your govt has been acting in the fields of foriegn policy, the UN, helathcare, destroying Iraq and then paying themselves (haliburton et al) to rebuild it at extortionate prices etc and then get back to us and let me know how that honesty / money ratio is working out for ya...
Come on, stop the BS.
At least Koreans expect corruption and throw their hands up to it... they at least practice what they preach! |
Korean,
Answer my questions and stop assuming that every white person is from the U.S. and stop bringing the U.S. into it when someone is talking about Korea and stop thinking that the U.S. is the only country that extols virtues such as honesty, bravery, etc., etc.
Do you hate or dislike whites? Be honest now!!
Have a good day, eh.
Sincerely yours,
Roch |
Ok then, PROVE that he did something illegal. PROVE it, or shut it.
How's that for cutting to the heart of the matter? (and with no need to bring the US into it too) |
Wasn't the video of Lee Myungbag proof enough? |
Media manipulation is easy enough. It's been said that the comments were taken out of context. Why would this video emerge days before an election? Do you think that national prosecutors would miss something so blatantly obvious? Use your head sucker.
You've just got an axe to grind because after the music camp incident, Lee Myung Bak made some stupid comments about blacklisting innappropriate bands. |
I have more against Lee Myungbag than just that. How about how he destroyed Dongdaemoon to waste almost a billion dollars constructing a stream, simply to set himself up for a presidential run? How about how he uses Christianity to make himself look decent while being a lying scumbag?
He'll do as great a job at running this country as Kenneth Lay would, another shrewd businessman. |
Dongdaemun was disgusting. |
Dudes, do you know how to chop quotes? |
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