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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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crazy_arcade wrote: |
RACETRAITOR wrote: |
How about how he destroyed Dongdaemoon to waste almost a billion dollars constructing a stream, simply to set himself up for a presidential run? |
Dongdaemun was disgusting. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
So then why did he say he founded the company, and then later deny having anything to do with it? Which time was he lying? One way he's a lying dirtbag, the other way he's a lying dirtbag who broke the law.
And what kind of proof do you need, DNA evidence? Maybe you've been watching too much CSI. |
How about bank drafts for the purchase of the company? Contracts stating ownership? Internal documents signed by the CEO - LMB?
Any of the above, if proven to be valid, would be some pretty solid evidence of involvement. Then they've got to prove that he was involved in the CRIMES themselves.
If my brother in-law was to open a company - a company associated and linked to another one I was opening - and I gave a speech to some Uni crown and said I was running the joint... does that mean I'm guilty of the crimes? Or could it simply be lending my name to promote a linked company?
Either way, you're trying to dismiss the lack of evidence by comparing my opinion to a TV show - kind of disappointed in ya man.
Since when do we convict someone without due process? If this was a "western" CEO in Korea, would we believe the assertions against him? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
Since when do we convict someone without due process? If this was a "western" CEO in Korea, would we believe the assertions against him? |
This is Korea. "Due process" means letting someone walk free if their incarceration would hurt the economy. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: |
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I hear he does a mean Highland Fling. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Captain Corea wrote: |
Since when do we convict someone without due process? If this was a "western" CEO in Korea, would we believe the assertions against him? |
This is Korea. "Due process" means letting someone walk free if their incarceration would hurt the economy. |
Nice sweeping assessment there man. You're right, there's never any justice in Korea and all attempts at it have been farcical.
I'll make sure to tell everyone I know in the judiciary that their jobs are useless and that the years they've put in have gone for naught.
ALL of it is useless.
If you don't mind though man, can ya tell me your vast experiences - other than reading the newspapers and being outraged by a few high profile cases - in the Korean Judicial field?
Just so I can pass it along and say "Racetraitor, the guy who passed the bar in Korea and has extensive legal experience and training in a number of countries, has told you all that you're basically fudge-ups and should give it up. That it is a guarantee that if someone is good for the economy, you might as well not bother prosecuting them"
((Honestly man, I've usually enjoyed reading your posts on this board, but you seem to have a hard on for LMB and it's clouding your objectiveness. There's been times when I've been frustrated by 'the legal process' in Korea, but after further investigation (asking lawyers I know), it made sense. I may not have agreed, but it made sense legally... in Korea. )) |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Well..Korea seems to be well on its way to the amazing levels of cynicism vs. politicans what have led to voter apathy back home. When people start to think that "they are all crooks" then they begin to lose interest in politics and in turn see their vote as being meaningless.
Then, you get low voter turn out or people who vote for whoever looks best.
This is a dangerous and slippery slope for any democracy (established one or new one). |
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SHANE02

Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Captain Corea wrote: |
Since when do we convict someone without due process? If this was a "western" CEO in Korea, would we believe the assertions against him? |
This is Korea. "Due process" means letting someone walk free if their incarceration would hurt the economy. |
Nice sweeping assessment there man. You're right, there's never any justice in Korea and all attempts at it have been farcical.
I'll make sure to tell everyone I know in the judiciary that their jobs are useless and that the years they've put in have gone for naught.
ALL of it is useless.
If you don't mind though man, can ya tell me your vast experiences - other than reading the newspapers and being outraged by a few high profile cases - in the Korean Judicial field?
Just so I can pass it along and say "Racetraitor, the guy who passed the bar in Korea and has extensive legal experience and training in a number of countries, has told you all that you're basically fudge-ups and should give it up. That it is a guarantee that if someone is good for the economy, you might as well not bother prosecuting them"
((Honestly man, I've usually enjoyed reading your posts on this board, but you seem to have a hard on for LMB and it's clouding your objectiveness. There's been times when I've been frustrated by 'the legal process' in Korea, but after further investigation (asking lawyers I know), it made sense. I may not have agreed, but it made sense legally... in Korea. )) |
I don't think he said all your extensivly trained lawer friends are wasting their time.
What he said was if you are high enough up the food chain you won't do real time. There are countless examples of it in Korea and elsewhere, and it has very little to do with your lawyer friends. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: |
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LMB is a businessman, and I think he will improve the general country better than the other turd. But a lot of uneducated or unskilled people here think getting a new successful president is like a get out of poverty free card. The new rich under Lee will be the young educated and well trained people. The old poor will get poorer. It's the way of the world.
Bush is an embarrassment to America. I understand being re-elected; America never votes out its president during a war.
Paul Martin: He's a crook, and luckily he only lasted about a year. He was so crooked, it got a conservative leader elected only 12 or so years after many Canadian people had swore they'd never vote a Conservative again.
If he is impeached, I don't think he'll step down unless he's forced. Look at Mr. No. He had 8% popularity at one point, and he refused to resign. Japan's Abe stepped down after finding out he had 30% popularity. Stubborn old fool. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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If they are lawyer friends in Korea, they are wasting their time.
Law in Korea involves not getting caught in the spotlight. Pretty easy, but you get caught and you're in trouble...unless you're rich or nobody cares.
Look at all the leaders of the chaebols who are in legal trouble. Samsung, Hanhwa, Joongang... Those people have no fears.
Incidentally, my wife knows someone who was raped by a Korean prosecutor. Not just raped, but copro-raped. That's right, raped with shiat. So maybe if your lawyer friends are Korean prosecutors, one of them has a thing for coprophilia. Don't shake any of their hands, just saying. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Law in Korea involves not getting caught in the spotlight. Pretty easy, but you get caught and you're in trouble...unless you're rich or nobody cares. |
Change that to law for any rich person and you are on the right track buddy.... |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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As long as the legal system allows bribes for assault cases (blood money) then it will be this way. 김승연 from Hanwha did exactly that. Angry father's rage and beat up some kids. Then when it came down to it, he just bribed them not to press charges. And folks, it's all legal!!!
RACETRAITOR wrote: |
If they are lawyer friends in Korea, they are wasting their time.
Law in Korea involves not getting caught in the spotlight. Pretty easy, but you get caught and you're in trouble...unless you're rich or nobody cares.
Look at all the leaders of the chaebols who are in legal trouble. Samsung, Hanhwa, Joongang... Those people have no fears.
Incidentally, my wife knows someone who was raped by a Korean prosecutor. Not just raped, but copro-raped. That's right, raped with shiat. So maybe if your lawyer friends are Korean prosecutors, one of them has a thing for coprophilia. Don't shake any of their hands, just saying. |
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