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Well the 3D exodus has started.
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komtengi



Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:13 am    Post subject: Well the 3D exodus has started. Reply with quote

After watching this evenings news and looking at the exodus of 3d workers, I was suprised by another story of two workers that had commited suicide. The probelms that these workers go through to get here, then having to work here and now the government decides to send 120,000 of them back? I don't see this either remedying or improving the situation whatsoever.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why the sudden govt. clampdown I wonder? Is it because the economy is that bad so koreans are reserving even the toughest jobs for themselves? i can't imagine such a mass deportation 2 years ago.
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ratslash



Joined: 08 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't understand this post. what are 3d workers?
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They work at Ding Ding Dang hakwons and they wear special glasses to help them see all different dimensions.
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ratslash



Joined: 08 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i trust, rapier, my good man, that you are being sarcastic, whereas the question was quite serious.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirty, difficult, & dangerous -- or something like that. Yah, the industrial jobs Koreans wont take. Rationale behind the mass expulsion is a bit hard to fathom. Most were here on a temporary 'trainee' basis & subject to a lot of abuse from employers (sound familiar?) & many were well beyond their visa dates. The small & medium-sized industries are gonna really suffer for the lack of personnel, & most of these people have nothing to return to in their home countries in terms of employment. There will presumably be some kind of accommodation for a new wave of needy & naive grunt-workers to be taken advantage of.

Some countries allow faithful imported workers to assimilate but there seems to be zero sympathy here for that line of thinking. Xenophobia at work, especially regarding those from developing countries it seems.

Heartbreaking scene one day this summer: a busload of Bangladeshi granted a day of r&r at the beach, lined up at the payphone & sobbing uncontrollably as they spoke I suppose with loved ones they hadnt seen in months or years.
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Arthur Fonzerelli



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddd = dashing, debonair, delicate....
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Facing Deportation, Foreign Worker Kills Self

A 32-year-old illegal worker from Sri Lanka who was facing deportation committed suicide Tuesday night by jumping in front of a subway train at Dandaeogeori Station in Seongnam, south of Seoul. According to witnesses, the man, identified only by his surname Tharaka, jumped down to the track, then lay down and let himself be run over. He had agonized over the forced deportation of illegal aliens promised by the South Korean government.

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200311/200311120018.html
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Facing Deportation, Foreign Worker Kills Self

A 32-year-old illegal worker from Sri Lanka who was facing deportation committed suicide Tuesday night by jumping in front of a subway train at Dandaeogeori Station in Seongnam, south of Seoul. According to witnesses, the man, identified only by his surname Tharaka, jumped down to the track, then lay down and let himself be run over. He had agonized over the forced deportation of illegal aliens promised by the South Korean government.

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200311/200311120018.html



Crying or Very sad


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helly



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The irony now is that businesses are complaining that there is a labor shortage and their labor cost will jump drastically if they are forced to hire Koreans. So the government is allowing 3,500 (I think) new industrial trainees in to alleviate the problem. Shocked
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rationale behind the mass expulsion is a bit hard to fathom. Most were here on a temporary 'trainee' basis & subject to a lot of abuse from employers (sound familiar?) & many were well beyond their visa dates.


If that's the case, I think the crackdown can only be a good thing for 3D workers. When the gov't enforces some standards, the employers who abuse their employees legal status will have to change or go out of business. The bad companies go out of business and it's better for the group in the long run.
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Gladiator



Joined: 23 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:12 pm    Post subject: Exodus of 3D workers has started Reply with quote

These people are mere tools to their slave masters, living and working in conditions reminiscent of 18th century English factories. I suppose the bosses regard their deportation as similar to losing a lathe or a box of nails. It is a good question as to how Korea will fill those drudgery jobs though.

It puts our own predicaments here into perspective I guess. At least most English Teaching tools in Korea have access to a level of consular protection the Korean authorities sit up and take notice of. It's a sobering thought. Migrant workers in Saudi Arabia fare lttle better but I don't see the DDD workers situation in Korea improving anytime soon.
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helly



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, it looks like a witch hunt!

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200311/kt2003111717495610230.htm
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Dan



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

before you guys start looking down your proverbial nose, remember that illegal foreign workers working in crappy jobs that no one else wants, exists in every developed country in the world.

At least the korean government is being proactive in trying to correct this behavior. In Cali Davis tried to push giving licenses to illegal immigrants so they could drive to their illegal jobs.
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maxxx_power



Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan wrote:
before you guys start looking down your proverbial nose, remember that illegal foreign workers working in crappy jobs that no one else wants, exists in every developed country in the world.

At least the korean government is being proactive in trying to correct this behavior. In Cali Davis tried to push giving licenses to illegal immigrants so they could drive to their illegal jobs.


Illegal migrant workers are a necessity. Why should I have to pay 2 bucks for a pound of apples back home, or sell a kidney to eat a juicy strawberry? Korea is really no different (other than inflated produce prices), costs should in theory be kept down through the use of cheap labor.

When I was a teenager and worked some of those less desireably jobs Mexicans were some of the hardest working people I had ever seen. They worked in slave like conditions and scraped together some money to send home to their families in Mexico or some other S. American country. It was a hell of a lot better than they could do in Honduras or Nicaragua.

Now that I have gotten older, I honestly feel that I would never work in those kinds of jobs again (a slander against myself). Thank goodness someone else is willing to do it.

I don't think anyone here is bashing illegal workers, more the Korean government for deporting so many. In the US even the feds recognize the need, and have granted amnesty for millions of Mexicans who were living/working in country illegally.

The Korean Gov't is shooting itself in the foot big time if they actually enforce this. Korea for Koreans will truly make this country a global leech.
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