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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an earlier thread about Mormons:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=74494&highlight=
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Kepler



Joined: 24 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomato wrote:
On another thread, I saw this post:

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I've tried many anti-depressant medications, but they didn't do anything for me. I'm sure that there are some people that do find relief from them and I'm happy for them.

That being said, I've seen a lot of examples of people who probably take anti depressant medications to avoid dealing with the root causes of their problems. The last state I lived in before coming to Korea was Utah. Utah is the state with the highest rate of anti-depressant use in the US. Psychiatrists there are very fully booked.


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Wow, Utah? I'd think the Mormons would be happy people.


C and CC, would you care to respond?

According to Mental Health America, Utah is the most depressed state in the US. I don't think it's difficult to see why Mormonism is likely a contributing factor. Interestingly, South Dakota has the happiest residents.
http://www.hardnewscafe.usu.edu/news/bridgerlandnews/121807_depression.html

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2240705
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stillnotking



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
I think Christianity is a cult, so with that on the table, Mormons freak me out.

Someone handed me a "Chic Tract" comic back home and I was just in shock of how racist/backwards/xenophobic it was. I went a whole day thinking it was a sick joke and upon finding out it was real, I couldn't sleep very well.


Yeah... Chick was a shock to me too. I was forced to realize that there are people out there who really think like this..

Not all that many of them, fortunately.
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stillnotking



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kepler wrote:
According to Mental Health America, Utah is the most depressed state in the US. I don't think it's difficult to see why Mormonism is likely a contributing factor. Interestingly, South Dakota has the happiest residents.
http://www.hardnewscafe.usu.edu/news/bridgerlandnews/121807_depression.html

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2240705


The truth or falsity of a religion, idea, philosophy, etc. has no relation to how happy it makes people.

Believing something because it makes you happy to believe it is the definition of insincerity.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stillnotking wrote:
Kepler wrote:
According to Mental Health America, Utah is the most depressed state in the US. I don't think it's difficult to see why Mormonism is likely a contributing factor. Interestingly, South Dakota has the happiest residents.
http://www.hardnewscafe.usu.edu/news/bridgerlandnews/121807_depression.html

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2240705


The truth or falsity of a religion, idea, philosophy, etc. has no relation to how happy it makes people.

Believing something because it makes you happy to believe it is the definition of insincerity.


Some religions do make such a claim whether overtly or implied. I don't know many people who sell their religion as "it won't help you at all in this life, but hey you will have eternal life as a reward for all your suffering."

TV preachers sure seem to sell wealth and happiness if you just fall on your knees and doate.

Long story short, some high profile representatives of religions make testable claims.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two of my favorite tests are:

"You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free."
John 8: 32

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"
Matthew 7: 15-16

Funny that people who try to push religion down your throat quote Bible verses galore, but they never use either of these verses.
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