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is the esl industry in decline?
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The Archivist



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: is the esl industry in decline? Reply with quote
just wondering how the demise of nova in japan, coupled with the new hoops you folks in korea are forced to jump thorugh, are making the future of the esl biz appear?
i would have thought there'd be a glut of teachers in japan looking at korea instead of going home, but then i just learned all the background check stuff.
is this the beginning of the end?
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gmat



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
no
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hell no
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tomwaits



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
yes
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tomwaits



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hell yes
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
f*%##ghell, I hope so.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Perhaps not an end, but a sea change.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
but a sea [of] change



I agree....

But the ESL industry has been unregulated in Korea and in much of northeast Asia for so long that any change to regulate it might bring about its demise (or might as well should have...) because many of the teachers that make up the backbone of the industry are backpackers and student loanees who only come to places like Korea to work for short periods of time in order to pay back their loans or to earn enough money to move on to their next destination......

If the next government continues to impliment these strict rules (if immigrations were able to keep permanent records of visa applicants, then they wouldn't seem so....strict), you might see more ads than people filling them.


Besides, I know that in Korea, the 2 biggest multimillion-dollar industries are ESL education and prostitution.....
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bobbyhanlon



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
financially no, morally yes...

Quote:
but a sea [of] change

why the 'of'?
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
bobbyhanlon wrote:

Quote:
but a sea [of] change

why the 'of'?

Obviously he's not familiar with the term 'sea change'.

I guess the ESL industry is in decline after all.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's the last day for someone every day. As to the industry, it will find a a lvelling off point somewhere or another.
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mysteriousdeltarays



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hell yes! It has been going down hill steadily since the arrival of Canadians on work/study visas in Japan.

And the six months they give Canadians in Taiwan and Korea.

It has been plunging for a long while. Look at the bogus EFL certificates being flashed at you every time you enter this site.

It has become a joke. If you are a Canadian under the age of 30 there are certain options open to you in Japan.

Well I'd say the same here in Korea or Taiwan although you are getting a little old for and over educated in Taiwan if you can type.

There is always South East Asia on a TEFL certificate that won't be accepted. Just click the flashing ad.

You could get married to say a Thai girl! Then you could set up a web site.

Better yet as a Canadian (no doubt) you could help small children in and out of their clothing as a dive instructor.

Wouldn't that be a thrill?
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