Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

GET OFF MY BACK, KOREAN SALESPEOPLE!!!
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: GET OFF MY BACK, KOREAN SALESPEOPLE!!! Reply with quote

A new four story department store opened in the nearby city, and I decided to see what they had to offer the other day.

I put my daypack in a locker and took the escalator to the second floor. There I was approached by a man in a suit, possibly a store manager, who said something in Korean and poor English.

I walked over to the aisles of merchandise, and the man followed me, of course. I stopped and looked at the shelves, the man stood 2 or 3 feet away staring at me. I walked down an aisles past a family of Koreans shopping, he walks right by them, even though no employee is waiting on them. I walk by another Korean employee and she starts to follow me and the Korean man, standing with me as I shop. She then thinks better of this and walks off.

I then walk briskly to the elevator to go to the third floor, the man rushes to the elevator and gets on with me. He then follows me around some more, standing next to me for about 5 minutes while I stare at some shelves.

He does not seem to take a hint, so I then wallk briskly to the elevator again. He follows me. I press 1 to leave, and seems upset. Poor, poor man. Did I hurt his feelings?

Needless to say, I did not buy anything there. I did my shopping at Lotte and EMart.

If a store pulled this stunt in the States it would be viewed as a terrible insult. The implication is that they think you are going to steal something. It would be called racial profiling. It is quite likely that the customer would sue the store for discrimination, a federal law. And they might win. More likely, there would be newspaper articles and the group would boycott the store or restaurant, as happened to Denny's Restaurant chain many times (talk about slow learners).

The experience was annoying and insulting. But I'll survive. I just wish Koreans would understand what a cultural faux pas they are committing, ssuming it was an innocent mistake.

I went to two of those electronic/appliance stores later (hey, it's Christmas shopping time) and the same thing happened, of course. At least at the second one the guy was not quite so annoying and had a sense of humor. I bought some things. (But, oddly, he refused to give me a receipt. We went to the cashier. He asked me for the money, I handed it to him. He took it. The cashier just stood there. And he said goodbye. Do these stores, one of the major chains, systematically evade taxes, or are the employees openly stealing from their employer?)

At any rate, I have just this to say:



KOREAN SALESPEOPLE, GET OFF MY BACK!!!



Kamsamnida.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: GET OFF MY BACK, KOREAN SALESPEOPLE!!! Reply with quote

Why didn't you do what any normal person from the planet Earth would do: Tell him to back off and you'll call him if you need assistance. At the cashier, you ask them for the receipt.

It's not rocket science.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did ask for a receipt, twice.

They ignored me. And I think they understood the word "receipt."

But you never know.

Your suggestion makes sense, provided the salesperson understands English, or you speak Korean. Not always a safe assumption.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flummuxt wrote:
I did ask for a receipt, twice.
They ignored me.

Then continue standing there until they give it to you. With people waiting behind you, they can't ignore you forever.

flummuxt wrote:
Your suggestion makes sense, provided the salesperson understands English, or you speak Korean. Not always a safe assumption.

Then learn. It's a specific request that will be used again and again and again. Learning one word for "receipt" and one sentence for "bugger off" isn't a Herculean burden.


I have a feeling that if you continue to allow people to walk all over you during your stay here, you will be quite miserable and do nothing but whinge here on Dave's. Grow some balls, man.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say, do you speak Korean fluently? You seem to have the Korean attitude that it's anyone's fault but the Korean's.

This was the only store I have been refused a receipt at.

People, generally, do not "walk all over me," here or in Korea. Except, perhaps, when these salespeople followed too closely.

I was trying to be polite. I do not want to be the one who creates a negative impression of Westerners in the minds of Koreans.

Most Koreans and most stores are polite to me and other Westerners.

MY POINT is that someone should tell these Korean businesses that this practice is considered rude, and that they are losing business because of it.

Is this so hard to comprehend?

AND IT IS NOT MY FAULT THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS BEING RUDE TO ME.


Last edited by flummuxt on Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:07 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

영수증 = receipt
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some places won't let you carry your backpack around. There are footlockers by the entrances for a reason. They want you to put your backpack or any other bags in the locker until AFTER you are finished shopping.

The man was probably trying to tell you that when you first walked in.

Also:

Quote:
영수증 = receipt


Any smart person would know to carry around an electronic or pocket dictionary for such an occasion. Why wouldn't you? If people in this country could speak English then why the hell would they need YOU here to teach it?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:

Quote:
Some places won't let you carry your backpack around. There are footlockers by the entrances for a reason. They want you to put your backpack or any other bags in the locker until AFTER you are finished shopping.

The man was probably trying to tell you that when you first walked in.


Good grief! Why is it everyone on this site keeps trying to make me feel guilty, as though it was my fault?

Is there a reading comprehension problem here?

flummuxt (me):

Quote:
I put my daypack in a locker and took the escalator to the second floor. There I was approached by a man in a suit, possibly a store manager, who said something in Korean and poor English.


And no, I do not look or dress like a criminal or a weirdo, or a pervert child abuser, or whatever.

Business, at least national chain stores, normally ring up purchases on a cash register and hand you a receipt. I should not need to ask for one.

Say, how's your Korean, pkang0202?

Let me spell it out for you. I posted this because it is obvious that there are Koreans using this site posing as Westerners. I figured they would read this, and maybe get the message. The message is simple: Korean businesses should not do this because it is rude and it ultimately hurts business. I guess some folks did not get the message.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The_Eyeball_Kid



Joined: 20 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's becoming a bit of a cliche but here it is nevertheless, with all appropriate apologies to Whatever (who hasn't been around much of late):

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flum, I don't think the manager was worried you were going to steal. I think he was worried that no one would be able to help you because you are a foreigner.