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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
#3 Oceans of the World in Extreme Danger
#19 Destruction of Rainforests Worst Ever
#8 Pentagon Exempt from Freedom of Information Act
#10 Expanded Air War in Iraq Kills More Civilians
#22 $Billions in Homeland Security Spending Undisclosed
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Give me another duh... "Duh!"
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#2 Halliburton Charged with Selling Nuclear Technologies to Iran
#24 Cheney�s Halliburton Stock Rose Over 3000 Percent Last Year |
WOW.  Was there evidence of the nuclear secret transfer? (beyond an unnamed or single source) |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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| #20 Bottled Water: A Global Environmental Problem |
Plastic bottles end up in landfills, much less the ocean.
I bought a water cooler this year for about 150,000 won, use a water service who delivers 18 gallon(??) jugs to my house every so often - 5,000 each. They take the empties, wash them and use them again. To save energy, I turn it off when I'm not using it.
That's how I help the environment. Plus, I don't have to lug around big water bottles when I go shopping. |
In North America, most cities have better tap water than bottled water.
And given that tap water has fluoride, it's better for your teeth. |
true that.
tap water in vancouver is sweet at the moment! |
Nazi POW camps saw to it that FLUORIDE was added to water supplies.
All of course b/c it was good for the prisoners' teeth 
http://www.ask.com/web?q=fluoride+nazis&qsrc=19&o=0&l=dir |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| loose_ends wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| matthews_world wrote: |
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| #20 Bottled Water: A Global Environmental Problem |
Plastic bottles end up in landfills, much less the ocean.
I bought a water cooler this year for about 150,000 won, use a water service who delivers 18 gallon(??) jugs to my house every so often - 5,000 each. They take the empties, wash them and use them again. To save energy, I turn it off when I'm not using it.
That's how I help the environment. Plus, I don't have to lug around big water bottles when I go shopping. |
In North America, most cities have better tap water than bottled water.
And given that tap water has fluoride, it's better for your teeth. |
true that.
tap water in vancouver is sweet at the moment! |
Nazi POW camps saw to it that FLUORIDE was added to water supplies.
All of course b/c it was good for the prisoners' teeth
http://www.ask.com/web?q=fluoride+nazis&qsrc=19&o=0&l=dir |
Good catch, IGTG! Clearly the Nazis are trying to inhibit our vital essences. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
Nazi POW camps saw to it that FLUORIDE was added to water supplies.
All of course b/c it was good for the prisoners' teeth |
Beyond some wild eyed conspiracy web sites, I guess it might trouble you to back up that claim? POWs need water. I would imagine the water you send to the POWs you send to your own troops. Your own troops you might want to have healthy teeth. Seems silly to build prisoners their own water supply simply to deprive them of fluoride.
Anything else you'd like to add that displays you're using more than 2 brain cells? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| POWs need water. |
The point is not whether people need water. That's a no-brainer.
The key issue deals with that of the FLUORIDE agenda 
Not only does it make people DOCILE, it also contributes to brittle bones  |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| POWs need water. |
The point is not whether people need water. That's a no-brainer.
The key issue deals with that of the FLUORIDE agenda
Not only does it make people DOCILE, it also contributes to brittle bones |
Wow. Docile. Any scientific evidence the levels they put in drinking water has this effect? Stuff you copy, paste, and randomly bold from conspiracy web sites is not scientific evidence.
I guess the vast conspiracy has gotten to the American Dental Association!
http://www.ada.org/public/topics/fluoride/index.asp
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/fluoride.html |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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From Prominent researcher apologizes for pushing fluoride:
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One of the most obvious living experiments today, Dr. Limeback believes, is a proof-positive comparison between any two Canadian cities. "Here in Toronto we've been fluoridating for 36 years. Yet Vancouver � which has never fluoridated � has a cavity rate lower than Toronto's."
And, he pointed out, cavity rates are low all across the industrialized world including Europe, which is 98% fluoride free. Low because of improved standards of living, less refined sugar, regular dental checkups, flossing and frequent brushing. Now less than 2 cavities per child Canada-wide, he said. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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From Prominent researcher apologizes for pushing fluoride:
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One of the most obvious living experiments today, Dr. Limeback believes, is a proof-positive comparison between any two Canadian cities. "Here in Toronto we've been fluoridating for 36 years. Yet Vancouver � which has never fluoridated � has a cavity rate lower than Toronto's."
And, he pointed out, cavity rates are low all across the industrialized world including Europe, which is 98% fluoride free. Low because of improved standards of living, less refined sugar, regular dental checkups, flossing and frequent brushing. Now less than 2 cavities per child Canada-wide, he said. |
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Yep, one doc against the vast body of peer reviewed research over the last 50 years. And where's the stuff about it making people docile? While one might argue the health benefits in times past outweighed the risk factors and that is no longer the case (for example the reason why we stopped giving small pox vaccines in the early 1970s, before small pox was officially dead), that's not to support IGTG wild eyed claims. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Yep, one doc against the vast body of peer reviewed research over the last 50 years. |
One doc? You mean Dr. Hardy Limeback, B.Sc., Ph.D in Biochemistry, D.D.S., head of the Department of Preventive Dentistry for the University of Toronto, and president of the Canadian Association for Dental Research?
The article by Heilman, et al., in the Journal of the American Dental Association, July 1997 warns that some baby foods contain such high levels of fluoride that babies who eat the food risk dental fluorosis....Infants who eat large quantities of dry infant cereals reconstituted with fluoridated water could ingest substantial quantities of fluoride from this source, this study shows. "Children should also be monitored to make sure that they do not ingest too much fluoride from other sources such as fluoride dentifrice, dietary fluoride supplements or fluoridated water...."
"There is substantial evidence that fluoridated water, fluoride supplements, infant formulas, and fluoride toothpastes are risk factors for fluorosis," alone and together, reports Ohio State University researcher Dr. Ana Karina Mascarenhas in Pediatric Dentistry, 4/22/2000.
A recent study of fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities in Brazil proved that fluoride toothpaste contributes to fluorosis. In the study, children who started using fluoride before the age of three were 4.43 times more likely to have dental fluorosis than those who started using it after the age of three. From Pereira AC, Da Cunha FL, Meneghim M de C, Werner CW. Dental caries and fluorosis prevalence study in a nonfluoridated Brazilian community: trend analysis and toothpaste association. Fluoride 33 (2) 2000
There are tons of these. Want more? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Yep, one doc against the vast body of peer reviewed research over the last 50 years. |
One doc? You mean Dr. Hardy Limeback, B.Sc., Ph.D in Biochemistry, D.D.S., head of the Department of Preventive Dentistry for the University of Toronto, and president of the Canadian Association for Dental Research?
The article by Heilman, et al., in the Journal of the American Dental Association, July 1997 warns that some baby foods contain such high levels of fluoride that babies who eat the food risk dental fluorosis....Infants who eat large quantities of dry infant cereals reconstituted with fluoridated water could ingest substantial quantities of fluoride from this source, this study shows. "Children should also be monitored to make sure that they do not ingest too much fluoride from other sources such as fluoride dentifrice, dietary fluoride supplements or fluoridated water...."
"There is substantial evidence that fluoridated water, fluoride supplements, infant formulas, and fluoride toothpastes are risk factors for fluorosis," alone and together, reports Ohio State University researcher Dr. Ana Karina Mascarenhas in Pediatric Dentistry, 4/22/2000.
A recent study of fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities in Brazil proved that fluoride toothpaste contributes to fluorosis. In the study, children who started using fluoride before the age of three were 4.43 times more likely to have dental fluorosis than those who started using it after the age of three. From Pereira AC, Da Cunha FL, Meneghim M de C, Werner CW. Dental caries and fluorosis prevalence study in a nonfluoridated Brazilian community: trend analysis and toothpaste association. Fluoride 33 (2) 2000
There are tons of these. Want more? |
Any that actually demonstrate IGTG's mind control claims? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Over-exposure to water causes drowning. Let's ban water. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Fluoride makes people docile? Where's the evidence? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Fluoride makes people docile? Where's the evidence? |
Click on a few links ya docile moron ...
The Fluoride Conspiracy: From IG Farben to FDA
by EKOSTV
"Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and people will believe it."
- Adolf Hitler
"Fluoridation is the greatest case of scientific fraud of this century."
- Robert Carlton, Ph.D, former EPA scientist, 1992
The history of forcing fluoride on humans through the fluoridation of drinking water is wrought with lies, greed and deception.
Governments that add fluoride to drinking water supplies insist that it is safe, beneficial and necessary, however, scientific evidence shows that fluoride is not safe to ingest and areas that fluoridate their drinking water supplies have higher rates of cavities, cancer, dental fluorosis, osteoporosis and other health problems.
Because of the push from the aluminum industry, pharmaceutical companies and weapons manufacturers, fluoride continues to be added to water supplies all over North America and due to recent legal actions against water companies that fluoridate drinking water supplies, precedent has been set that will make it impossible for suits to be filed against water suppliers that fluoridate.
ETC ...
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=2&contentid=3826&page=1 |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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back to the top censored stories - i don't see anything there about blackwater - the mercenaries responsible for deaths of iraqis and others; paid for by taxpayer funds - "outsourced" military if you will - trying to build up their "forces" by establishing training camps in the u.s. over and above what they have now -
are you all up on this? i can dig up a link if you don't know what i'm talking about - but just google "blackwater" and Jeremy Scahill, he wrote a book about them, reports on them a lot.
they were down in NO after Katrina hit, terrorizing the locals.... |
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