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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oxfordstu wrote:
Alright thanks guys.


No problem.

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I just don't understand WHY doctors here don't give a full prescription to antibiotics.


The doctor has to ensure you haven't picked up a strain that's resistant to the standard treatment. If you have, then a year's worth of the standard treatment won't do any good. He also has to ensure you don't have an adverse reaction to it.

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Even if I'm feeling better, isn't it absolutely necessary to finish taking the pills for the full 7-10 days?


Sure is. That's yet another reason the doctor tells you to come back for a second and sometimes third visit. Luckily the charges for the visits and medicine here are almost nothing, provided you're actually covered under the mandatory insurance scheme.
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flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, I won't address the previous posts point by point, but most of the posters are blowing smoke. Except for one antibiotic, zithromax, all antibiotics are prescribed for a minimum of 10 days; if you are not cured by then the doctor may prescribe another round of 10 days of the same antibiotic or another antibiotic. Even if you feel better after three or five days, you are supposed to continue taking the full 10 day prescription. Period. Anything else a doctor or poster tells you is pure BS.

Do you really expect that when the doctor prescribes three days of antibiotics if you are not cured by then he will switch prescriptions? that is a sure fire way to develop resistant strains in your body. And do you expect those Koreans who live in rural areas to travel 10 km or more from their job to see the doctor again after three days? Yeah, right. So we are living in a sea or resistant bacteria, courtesy of irresponsible Korean medical policy.

Sure, we don't pay a lot out of our pocket for the follow-up visit, but you can be sure they are billing the national medical insurance program. I wonder how much they get paid for your 60 second doctor's visit?

OP, did your doctor bother to take your temperature, or would that have been too much of a strain?

They hand out antibiotics here without taking your temperature, so you get antibiotics for a cold, and who knows what else, while they fail to do any real exam or tests, and you could die 24 hours later from meningitis. This is not unusual for people in their teens or 20s in an educational setting where there are bugs floating around in close contact.

I vowed that the next time the doctor tried to give me 3 days of meds I would walk out of the pharmacist without paying unless it was changed. That's what you should do. No antibiotics are better than 3 or 5 days worth.

If you find a doctor that is competent and that you trust, be polite. But if you have a pill pusher hack, be assertive. They know they are phonies.

OK, trolls, your turn.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks to me like the troll just took his turn.
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flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that's an informative comment from a person who obviously is well-educated on the subject.

Try reading Jim Lehrer's autobiography, A Bus of My Own, sometime. He had two relatives killed and one seriously injured by incompetent medical care. That, of course, was in the U.S. He did a two-day special documentary on the subject of iatrogenic disease on PBS, public television in the U.S.

Imagine what it is like here in Korea, where the doctors don't bother to even take your temperature when you are sick and give you unlabeled pills with no warnings about side-effects.

People are being killed or seriously harmed by bad medical care in Korea, but you don't here about it. I was prescribed dangerous drugs, a fact that was evident by looking up the drug on the web.

LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, READERS: Don't get your medical advice from the bozos posting on this website. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flummuxt wrote:
Now that's an informative comment from a person who obviously is well-educated on the subject.


Glad you liked it. It actually is informative as it's a valid desciption of the event.

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Try reading Jim Lehrer's autobiography, A Bus of My Own, sometime. He had two relatives killed and one seriously injured by incompetent medical care. That, of course, was in the U.S. He did a two-day special documentary on the subject of iatrogenic disease on PBS, public television in the U.S.


Nice, but irrelevant as the OP queried about doctors in Korea. Perhaps a short course in Geography should be next on your reading list?

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Imagine what it is like here in Korea, where the doctors don't bother to even take your temperature when you are sick and give you unlabeled pills with no warnings about side-effects.


I've been very lucky, then. The nurses take my temperature and both the nurses and the doctors ask me what allergies I have and if I have any allergy to any medicine. Also the pharmacists explained the medicine to me and to call the prescribing doctor if I had an adverse reaction.

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People are being killed or seriously harmed by bad medical care in Korea, but you don't here about it. I was prescribed dangerous drugs, a fact that was evident by looking up the drug on the web.


That sounds like a legitimate medical practice. Rolling Eyes

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LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, READERS: Don't get your medical advice from the bozos posting on this website. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.


Yeah, get it from the 'net. Or even from the only person in this thread giving out medical advice: you. And that advice is obviously bad: demand the pharmacist break the law. Others have just explained to the OP the wherefores of the Korean system or have suggested the OP see a doctor while on vacation where he (the OP, not the doctor) happens to go.

By the way, aren't you a poster on this website?
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
flummuxt wrote:
Now that's an informative comment from a person who obviously is well-educated on the subject.


Glad you liked it. It actually is informative as it's a valid desciption of the event.

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Try reading Jim Lehrer's autobiography, A Bus of My Own, sometime. He had two relatives killed and one seriously injured by incompetent medical care. That, of course, was in the U.S. He did a two-day special documentary on the subject of iatrogenic disease on PBS, public television in the U.S.


Nice, but irrelevant as the OP queried about doctors in Korea. Perhaps a short course in Geography should be next on your reading list?

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Imagine what it is like here in Korea, where the doctors don't bother to even take your temperature when you are sick and give you unlabeled pills with no warnings about side-effects.


I've been very lucky, then. The nurses take my temperature and both the nurses and the doctors ask me what allergies I have and if I have any allergy to any medicine. Also the pharmacists explained the medicine to me and to call the prescribing doctor if I had an adverse reaction.

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People are being killed or seriously harmed by bad medical care in Korea, but you don't here about it. I was prescribed dangerous drugs, a fact that was evident by looking up the drug on the web.


That sounds like a legitimate medical practice. Rolling Eyes

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LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, READERS: Don't get your medical advice from the bozos posting on this website. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.


Yeah, get it from the 'net. Or even from the only person in this thread giving out medical advice: you. And that advice is obviously bad: demand the pharmacist break the law. Others have just explained to the OP the wherefores of the Korean system or have suggested the OP see a doctor while on vacation where he (the OP, not the doctor) happens to go.

By the way, aren't you a poster on this website?


Well, I'm happy that you have had such wonderful expereiences with Korean physicians. I on the other hand have had the same problems as other posters on this thread. I went to at least 12 different doctors while in Korea and NONE of them ever took my temperature. Not once. I spent 6 months being cronically ill with a chest infection because no doctor would give me any meds that would last longer than 3 days. They also kept prescribing stomach medication for for frequent bouts of dizziness and fatigue. Come to find out (after I moved to Thailand) that I needed glasses. Korean doctors are the lowest of the low. To be honest I dont think most of them give a crap about you becasue you are a waygook.
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doctors in Korea will give you a muscle relaxant shot and a cocktail of pills from the pharmacist. You WILL NOT recieve antibiotics unless you argue like hell.

I had taken my wife to two doctors, followed by some other quack, than the university hospital who all tried to prescribe the same crap. The second to last specialist again tried to prescribe the same safe prescription and that was when we walked. We went to another hospital and after consultation and general admission would they provide antibiotics via an intravenous drip for four days only after a bladder infection had been diagosed. This had been going on for six months. You have to prove that you are really sick, they even xrayed her head for clues(???).

In hospital, nurses can be incompetent. Beware of bubbles in your drip or stupid nurses who inject antibiotics into "through" the tube line(squirting the drug onto the floor; your paying for this). I spent my time watching over my wife and arging on her behalf. She did improve 500,000 won later

Until we returned to the US could we at least begin to secure medication to continue to fight lung infection.

You either bring your own doctor prescribed antibiotics from your own country(I did that for 3 months in India and the mid. east) or, find a Korean doctor "willing" to prescribe "real" antibiotics for you.

Korea is a country that is polluted as hell in which you could end up with all sorts of industrial diseases(paint in the air, chemical burnoffs, etc). To reduce your incidence of industrial disease, google a search on pollution statistica and recurring health problems for the part of Korea in which you intend to work. I suspect Koreans keep this quiet so as not to talk disrespectfully of Korea Sparkling.
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flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, never go to the "net" for medical iinformation; always trust everything some bozo on Dave's tells you without questioning.

You certainly should never, ever trust these websites for information:

http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/

http://www.nih.gov/

They are all full of lies. (The NIH site is blocked at my school, even from teachers' computers.)

Only trust your Korean doctor.

NEVER ask questions.

Never ask what the half dozen pills are.

Never ask for more than three days of meds.

Never complain after he kills you.

It was all your fault.

(why the hell do i bother to read Dave's, anyway? If it weren't for trying to figure out the new rules, I wouldn't.)

fusionbarnone:
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Korea is a country that is polluted as hell


It is also a country where people of all ages urinate (and spit and who knows what else) in public on sidewalks and where parents have their children urinate into cups inside supermarkets, some 100 feet from a public bathroom. No wonder they take their shoes off before entering a building.

And you wonder why the place smells bad, and you get sick?
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flummuxt wrote:
OP, I won't address the previous posts point by point, but most of the posters are blowing smoke. Except for one antibiotic, zithromax, all antibiotics are prescribed for a minimum of 10 days; if you are not cured by then the doctor may prescribe another round of 10 days of the same antibiotic or another antibiotic. Even if you feel better after three or five days, you are supposed to continue taking the full 10 day prescription. Period. Anything else a doctor or poster tells you is pure BS.


True.
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